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Post by Argüello on Aug 10, 2019 23:10:33 GMT 1
well thanks for the ones who voted Feeling kinda disappointed cause I'm having a hard time finding songs and they don't do well. But I'm no quitter, so expect me to be there next edition Also love Madonna❤️
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Post by Alex Memphis on Aug 11, 2019 0:42:02 GMT 1
OMG Guys thank you for the 1st place ! I’ll write a fancy and detailed reaction to the final results tomorrow. See you all in the United States of America next edition!
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Post by тнєяσиттi95 on Aug 11, 2019 2:38:02 GMT 1
I have the same feeling. Being last with an old song is definitely not motivating me to send more ... which is kind of besides the point of this contest... Perhaps a change of rules could be considered then, so that everyone is forced to send older songs more often. Maybe every 2nd or 3rd edition it could be obligatory to send pre-2000s songs or so Alternatively the age-limit could be moved back, like from 10-years-old to 15-years-old. Just some thoughts I wanted to share, maybe it's worth discussing it Interesting ideas actually I feel like every 2 to 3 editions would maybe work best which would still leave you the freedom to send "newer" songs you love (mostly people like me who's retro favorites and childhood songs are mostly based from 2000s lol) between those editions that you have to send older songs of course fitting the time period still assuming it stays 10 years which would be the most ideal one for me personally considering my retro taste. However i can work with 15 years too if needed but its just that there are gonna be so many songs getting free to send for retro that i am excited for which would be a shame if they get set back by 5 years again and i have been putting up a playlist out of all of them but as said i would be fine with both changes here if they come if one of or both of these get put into effect i think finishing this decade with the rules we currently have and bringing changes from #80 onwards or something that way everyone would have time to prepare and search for songs if they haven't yet
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Aug 11, 2019 9:28:46 GMT 1
I'm not against the idea that we could be forced to use older music, but first the rules have to be perfected about it! In my opinion 10 years should stay. I think it's a fair "age" for songs taking part in this contest (in WWWSC we mostly use songs that are up to 10 years old, so both contests don't clash in this case). I'm more of a supporter for the idea of few editions per decade, when everyone would be forced to use older songs. And because I represent pretty small music industry, I think 3 editions per decade would be fine - in my opinion it would be nice and easy to remember if every 3rd, 6th and 9th edition of a decade (starting from next decade) would be meant for those older songs (which means everyone uses older music) and the other editions (#1, #2, #4, #5, #7 & #8) you'd have a free choice - use very old songs or songs that are about 10 years old. Special editions obviously would stay as they are - with their own specific theme or rules.
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Post by Gilberto on Aug 11, 2019 9:43:16 GMT 1
Being completely honest, I'm usually much more inclined to vote for the 'newer' songs as well, not because of the fact that they are new songs, but because I usually like them more So having some kind of rule to make us send older songs would be pretty interesting and I'd be in favour of such concept
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Post by Julian on Aug 11, 2019 10:29:27 GMT 1
I'm against the introduction of the rules mentioned. Sending older songs every couple editions would be acceptable, even though I wouldn't be a big fan, but increasing the age restriction to 15 years is not an idea I support, I have several upcoming songs I'd like to send that wouldn't be allowed with that rule and as Gilberto already said, I naturally prefer the newer songs most of the time. I can't tell you how to host your contest but personally I don't participate to hear traditional music from the 70s, which I'm sure is lovely, but just simply not my taste
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Post by mimisthesc on Aug 11, 2019 11:11:32 GMT 1
Concerning the results, thanks a lot to everyone who supported Cyprus! 12th place is alright, thought I'd end up around that so no surprise there. Special thanks to Croatia for their which really helped! Not a fan of the rest of the results but it isn't like I didn't expect them to be honest. Congratulations to the United States for winning, although I guess it was pretty clear from the beginning that they would be one of the main contenders for the victory, just like the United Kingdom which was also quite a 'safe' TOP 5 contender. Not feeling surprised about Ireland either as this kind of Celtic/Enya-sounding entries tend to do well, same goes for Finland with their usually successful rock entries and also for Mexico which is in general quite successful lately.
Regarding the discussion that's already started and seems to be going on at the moment, I have to say I agree with Florian. Some bigger countries surely have bigger and more developed music industries and can send big artists with worldwide hits. Especially when we're talking about 2000's songs, since many of the players are quite young here, they surely know those songs much better than they would know for instance an 80's song from any other country and by some singer they've never heard of. This already gives an advantage to those countries and after all, I don't think those songs are the only ones they have. The problem arises from the fact people support this kind of entries, which is something that cannot be prevented as nobody can tell people how to vote, but some of the ideas suggested by Florian could be applied, just so that everyone stands fairer chances of doing well. At this point, if 2-3 countries send a well-known song from the 00's in the same edition and judging by the voting trends that seem to be going on, although entering the TOP 10 is perfectly doable, a TOP 5 result seems to be almost impossible for many countries. And yes, just like everyone else, so am I hoping and aiming for a good result, because if everyone here was participating just in order to discover new music and share original entries, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
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Post by ferrygraf on Aug 11, 2019 11:58:41 GMT 1
Wow, didn't expect so many posts to follow, great that we can have this discussion My main intention/thought with these ideas (which I got rather spontaneously tbh) was so that contest would emphasize more on its original idea, to send old music. Idk about you, but if I think of "Retro", I wouldn't consider songs from 2009 or soon 2010 under that word (definitions are surely different to everyone). But yes, I know the rule is for songs that are 10 years old since the start, so this argument could have been applied since the beginning probably It just appears more and more not so fitting to me. That being said, I've also sent many songs from the 2000s and later 2000s and also often vote for those, so I'm not attacking anyone who prefers the entries from the younger times. By moving the rule back to 15 years, it would at least be like at the start of Retro WWWSC, but yeah, if songs from 2004 are more retro than 2009, that's of course debatable. That was my idea behind it, but it's not my number one option either. To clarify, I don't write these lines or consider these changes because of the results, my motivation is to make the contest generally feel "more Retro" again
Having slept over it, I think the concept of having to send "older" music every other edition (maybe 2nd or 3rd, that's up to decide) would fit better, so that people have most freedom in one edition and have to use something older in the other (e.g. pre-2000s). I think that would be a good compromise and reading your posts, some of you seem to be fond of it/not against it But the host herself hasn't spoken yet, so we'll see
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Post by Dylan on Aug 11, 2019 13:09:02 GMT 1
Thank you for the 2nd place. I didn't expect it at all, so it was quite a surprise Thank you to for your 12s and of course to everyone else who gave Ireland points. I appreciate it Very obvious winner, but not like that's a bad thing this time since I've always loved this song, I was 7 when it was released and I didn't know it was Madonna until I was like 15 or so congrats to the player. Also deserved the podium, this song was popular in which is no real surprise See you next edition! And now my comment about the new proposal. Being forced to send older songs (like strictly pre-2000) every few editions isn't an issue but I don't want to see the age limit being pushed back to 15 years.. I have songs from 2005-2009 that I would like to send soon and I'm not waiting until 2024 just to submit one from 2009. I doubt it would be implemented in that way specifically (probably it would only be every few editions anyway) but that's how I feel on that one. I agree with Peter - 10 years is actually a fair age for the songs, it would be different if it was lower So basically, I am for the idea of sending old songs every few editions (and I mean pre-2000). Ireland isn't low on music so it doesn't bother me at all. But I wouldn't want to see the age being pushed to 15 years at all.
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Post by тнєяσиттi95 on Aug 11, 2019 13:41:36 GMT 1
same goes for Finland with their usually successful rock entries
Regarding the discussion that's already started and seems to be going on at the moment, I have to say I agree with Florian. Some bigger countries surely have bigger and more developed music industries and can send big artists with worldwide hits. Especially when we're talking about 2000's songs, since many of the players are quite young here, they surely know those songs much better than they would know for instance an 80's song from any other country and by some singer they've never heard of. This already gives an advantage to those countries and after all, I don't think those songs are the only ones they have. The problem arises from the fact people support this kind of entries, which is something that cannot be prevented as nobody can tell people how to vote, but some of the ideas suggested by Florian could be applied, just so that everyone stands fairer chances of doing well. At this point, if 2-3 countries send a well-known song from the 00's in the same edition and judging by the voting trends that seem to be going on, although entering the TOP 10 is perfectly doable, a TOP 5 result seems to be almost impossible for many countries. And yes, just like everyone else, so am I hoping and aiming for a good result, because if everyone here was participating just in order to discover new music and share original entries, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Well atleast that is one thing i am good at searching being a fan of the genre i feel like i can definitely do better with them overall than most of the time with pop entries i pick no matter the contest. So i guess it is kind of my specialty contest-wise haha it was not originally intended to be sent actually but i wanted to make a tribute so Also i agree on your points here. Feeling also like i am partly guilty of this not denying that but that is only because i grew up with music from 2000s so most of my favorites, childhood songs and the most memorable ones for me personally come from that time period which is why i send them most of the time because it is the time period i am mostly familiar with i try to avoid sending mostly popular acts, ofc doing it from time to time to not make it "boring". But yeah i think that 2-3 editions having to send older songs would be interesting to have indeed most of the people seem to agree as well
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