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Post by Anesović on May 28, 2014 16:04:34 GMT 1
But this one here is "forced" obviously Yeah, but still 8 withdrawals is still to much
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 16:05:34 GMT 1
NVSC, IMF, ISC, TVC, MMC, TFSC, TVSC, MSC, SVSCWhy? Because the hosts informed us about the voting patterns. Edit: 9 actually 8 actually From this 8 contests are just 3 still alive. ovsc.proboards.com/user/286 -> Registered 16th August 2013 -> Vaneedas ovsc.proboards.com/user/363 -> 8th January 2014 -> 1musicfun ovsc.proboards.com/user/383 -> 27th February 2014 -> eurosongbh ovsc.proboards.com/user/349 -> 13th December 2013 -> andreagomezsolis ISC: Closed/Inactive since JANUARY 2014 (Last edition ended 11th December 2013) TVC: Closed/Inactive since 1ST JANUARY 2014 MMC: Closed/Inactive since JULY 2013 TFSC: Closed/Inactive since APRIL 2014 TVSC: Closed/Inactive since something between September and November 2013 Even if they joined on youtube times before these contests closed it seems to me a bit.. strange. ________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry, for us the proof is obvious enough to let us make that step and we usually are not THAT strict if there are rule-breaking things like Hungary in NVSC #7 Vaneedas (and ONLY Vaneedas) can sign in to the waiting list and then be part of NVSC again on his own. And as we saw, there are times when the waiting list gets forward so it wouldn't be unrealistic for him to be back again someday. And in the end it's just a game. There are other contests to join and I don't think it will hurt to get such a 'punishment'. Don't be offended Christian, it's just our point of view and I don't think this will change much in the next time... I understand you guys, but it's just not 100% clear for me that he is guilty. And I replied to Jan's post too (a bit up) and it's very strange. I'm not offended It's kinda like a .. uhm a 'fairness process' as you guys don't know too for 100% that (specially he) Vaneedas was cheating. I know I'm annoying to you all, but I just want clear proofs and as I saw Jan's post above it seems even more unclearly to me .. Maybe he can explain this better with the 5 contests
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 16:06:37 GMT 1
Maybe Vaneedas only staying, as this was a lection for him?
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Post by Jan on May 28, 2014 16:09:39 GMT 1
So, just because these contests are closed now, it's a proof they haven't cheated? In all of these 8 (!) contests, the hosts have informed us that vaneedas and the other people (that cheated) had the same voting pattern as in NVSC/a similar voting pattern. As there were contest hosts that informed us BEFORE NVSC banned them, that they detected this And back to the "They just like Balkan music" "proof" They also did vote each other when not having a Balkan nation
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Post by Jan on May 28, 2014 16:10:14 GMT 1
If it was, he would have at least admitted it..
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Post by Franck on May 28, 2014 16:11:17 GMT 1
Well 8 other contests ? Please tell me the names of them and why you know it. And the things with the points. I already replied to it Sorry, for us the proof is obvious enough to let us make that step and we usually are not THAT strict if there are rule-breaking things like Hungary in NVSC #7 I already told it I am sorry
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Post by Daniel on May 28, 2014 16:15:45 GMT 1
It would've been a VERY BIG difference if Vaneedas told he was cheating.
Because we then might have thought of giving him a second chance.
But this is MORE THAN obvious and we still are sure.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 16:16:21 GMT 1
So, just because these contests are closed now, it's a proof they haven't cheated? In all of these 8 (!) contests, the hosts have informed us that vaneedas and the other people (that cheated) had the same voting pattern as in NVSC/a similar voting pattern. As there were contest hosts that informed us BEFORE NVSC banned them, that they detected this And back to the "They just like Balkan music" "proof" They also did vote each other when not having a Balkan nation Haven't you saw when the users registered to the forums ? If you can show me some proofs that they joined the contests on youtube ages before, then I can say that the desicion was right. Just look at the closing dates and the registeration dates. OK it seems now that I play police of the forums Well I just want clearance into that. But tell me that.. You guys know it till the first edition that they have the same voting pattern, why did you guys did not stopped him/them ages ago ? You guys could have stopped them 5 months ago or something. Why now
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Post by Rick on May 28, 2014 16:18:33 GMT 1
Sorry but I have to reveal those proofs Jan has found recently.
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Post by Daniel on May 28, 2014 16:18:50 GMT 1
You guys could have stopped them 5 months ago or something. Why now Well tbh, I didn't notice it until Jan told us in the council this edition. And I was acting like you to save Vaneedas but then I saw the patterns and all the proofs and then I was sure of what we are talking about. EDIT: Look up the post above me
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