Tom
Banned Forever
9,950
8,797
♫ ♥ Tom117323 | < 3 Eurovision Song Contest < 3 Online Song Contests < 3 ♥ ♫
|
Post by Tom on May 12, 2015 21:36:57 GMT 1
But it has been proven that  Jozef Stalin has given the task to militairs and such to kill more people then   Adolf Hitler has ever done.  This is not a statement to any of the discussing sides in this topic and I would like to stay neutral in anything but I see often people saying Hitler killed the most people a human has ever done, however I think there's not been taught people enough about all things which happened in the Soviet times. Adding the fact that most of Hitler's victims were made in the western world which gets supported by the  United States while all victims of Stalin were made in the Soviet Union, which didn't get supported by the United States. |
|
1,249
4,724
I don't get it lol
|
Post by Christian AT on May 12, 2015 22:35:20 GMT 1
Stop tagging me, cuz I won't participate in  this Israeli contest . That's racist, you clearly judge a whole country whose foundation was justified. EDIT: No, racism is actually an understatement! In fact, it's ANTI-SEMITISM! If you are coming at me stating that it is all about Jews stealing home land from  Arabs, you don't get the history of Israel and its legal foundation. They have improved a poor stripe at the desert, welcomed both Jews and Arabs (one fourth of the Israelis are Arabs, most have remained at  Islam) and fully intergrated refugees that had to flee from    Arab countries after many devastating wars won by Israel to defend its pure existence. The Israelis have excluded many  Palestinians and build fences around themselves at the same time in the simple wish to establish an own state. It was not good to cause such chaos, but what were they able to do? It is unjustified, unfair and racist to exclude and run around the streets with the believe of forbidding Jews to live in a state - one state - peacefully. It is anti-semitism. Palestine and Israel must exist in peace, but no one has the right to question Israel or its citizens. And  you don't want to participate in a contest because of Israel? Edit: Off-topic, but it had to be said. I won't let this unanswered.Wow. If I say something about  Israel, everybody screams "That's anti-semitism". If I would say something about Palestine, it's freedom of speech. K? Antisemitsm? Cool! Palestine has welcomed Israelis/Jews and Israel took Palestine' land and built their cities on it. Take look at Gaza. It's in my eyes a big concentration camp. There's no food, no power, nothing. Israel killed in the past 6 years thousands of innocent people and the world is still supporting Israel. Because they say "we defend ourselves". Israel has the same right to exist as Palestine - I know. But Israel should stop with that kindergarten. Israel could speak with words and not with guns. And don't tell me that Israel wants freedom. Israel built/is building in the West Bank thousands of houses/flats for Israeli people. Wow. Let's work for freedom! Gosh. Really? This post is not finished and I will not finish this, because some people will never learn what's going wrong on this planet. PS: "to defend its pure existence". Israel is not recognised by all countries. |
|
|
|
Post by Nutzername92a on May 12, 2015 22:54:27 GMT 1
Wow. If I say something about Israel, everybody screams "That's anti-semitism". If I would say something about Palestine, it's freedom of speech. Where do you get that from? If you said you don't want to participate in a Palestinian guy's contest, I would react exactly the same. That's just plain stupid. That's pure nationalism. You can think about countries whatever you want. But if you can't realize that a single person has nothing to do with the country's politics, especially a 15-year-old boy in a Song Contest forum, I feel sorry for you. Most of us don't want to participate in his contest because we got spammed, have no interest or no time. You could have come up with better excuses than this nationalistic one. That was just really really poor. |
|
Callum
Retired Administrator
he/him
3,404
10,411
ethno-jazz band iriao defender
|
Post by Callum on May 13, 2015 7:53:38 GMT 1
Oh my goodness, this is quickly turning into an analogy of Russia 2014 in ESC.
Of course, Russia and Ukraine are at high tensions and stuff, and then the pro-Russian Rebels funded by Russia purge and start killing in Ukrainian soil.
Then people boo Russia at ESC because of that. It seems totally legitimate, doesn't it? NO.
You should have NO RIGHT to grill or antagonise two young girls who have NOTHING to do with that conflict, they're only representing themselves as part of their country, and people who booed should've been ashamed of themselves.
Now change the appropriate words to fit in with the problem on this thread.
|
|
|
|
Post by Maxim on May 13, 2015 14:20:34 GMT 1
3rd Reminder
to send enteries and timeslot:
|
|
1,249
4,724
I don't get it lol
|
Post by Christian AT on May 13, 2015 15:17:00 GMT 1
Wow. If I say something about Israel, everybody screams "That's anti-semitism". If I would say something about Palestine, it's freedom of speech. Where do you get that from? If you said you don't want to participate in a Palestinian guy's contest, I would react exactly the same. That's just plain stupid. That's pure nationalism. You can think about countries whatever you want. But if you can't realize that a single person has nothing to do with the country's politics, especially a 15-year-old boy in a Song Contest forum, I feel sorry for you. Most of us don't want to participate in his contest because we got spammed, have no interest or no time. You could have come up with better excuses than this nationalistic one. That was just really really poor. That's your opinion. And I already told you my opinion. And if you think my opinion is bad then you should care about your own stuff. Seems like many of you have way too much time and internet access. The result: "hey let's waste my time in the forums and complain about other opinions". Just get over it. I don't care what you or some other people say or think about me tbh, but I don't want any complains about my opinion. If I don't want to participate in a contest, because it's Israeli, let me be. You can start complain in your head, on the graveyard or in the metro, maybe some people show interest, but i don't fu..ing care, but don't puke that all over me please. And that's not only for you, honey. |
|
|
|
Post by Julian on May 13, 2015 15:22:29 GMT 1
Where do you get that from? If you said you don't want to participate in a Palestinian guy's contest, I would react exactly the same. That's just plain stupid. That's pure nationalism. You can think about countries whatever you want. But if you can't realize that a single person has nothing to do with the country's politics, especially a 15-year-old boy in a Song Contest forum, I feel sorry for you. Most of us don't want to participate in his contest because we got spammed, have no interest or no time. You could have come up with better excuses than this nationalistic one. That was just really really poor. Just get over it. I don't care what you or some other people say or think about me tbh, but I don't want any complains about my opinion. Then you're an intolerant bitch  it's your problem not ours because with this way of thinking, you will have many conflicts in your life. Who says that your opinion is right ? Maybe ours is wrong okay, but at least we try to learn different views and try to not act like "that's my opinion I don't care what other people say I won't change it" because thoughts like this won't help to solve a conflict |
|
|
|
Post by αndreas on May 13, 2015 16:29:43 GMT 1
If I don't want to participate in a contest, because it's Israeli, let me be. Can you find a solid reason for blaming a single person, who has nothing to do with politics, for what the government of his country has committed? I agree that Israel the Israeli government has committed terrible things, but  Palestine is the same  . |
|
1,249
4,724
I don't get it lol
|
Post by Christian AT on May 13, 2015 17:03:21 GMT 1
Just get over it. I don't care what you or some other people say or think about me tbh, but I don't want any complains about my opinion. Then you're an intolerant bitch it's your problem not ours because with this way of thinking, you will have many conflicts in your life. Who says that your opinion is right ? Maybe ours is wrong okay, but at least we try to learn different views and try to not act like "that's my opinion I don't care what other people say I won't change it" because thoughts like this won't help to solve a conflict At least I try to have an own opinion :b And I am sorry for people without an own opinion, but it seems to be a privilege. And how do you know that I (will) have many conflicts in my life ? You don't know anything of me or my life. I have a nice family, awesome friends, I am good in school and I'm in the school council. I have many hobbies - outdoor sports, going to festivals or relaxing at a lake together with friends. I work in my holidays and I bought a car last year aswell. Wow. My life is full of conflicts and I am a bad person. I am direct in RL aswell as here and I don't have any problems. How should I interpret your words? There are way too many pubertal world-changers who believe every crap they hear somewhere. |
|
|
|
Post by Nutzername92a on May 13, 2015 17:27:08 GMT 1
Then you're an intolerant bitch it's your problem not ours because with this way of thinking, you will have many conflicts in your life. Who says that your opinion is right ? Maybe ours is wrong okay, but at least we try to learn different views and try to not act like "that's my opinion I don't care what other people say I won't change it" because thoughts like this won't help to solve a conflict At least I try to have an own opinion :b And I am sorry for people without an own opinion, but it seems to be a privilege. And how do you know that I (will) have many conflicts in my life ? You don't know anything of me or my life. I have a nice family, awesome friends, I am good in school and I'm in the school council. I have many hobbies - outdoor sports, going to festivals or relaxing at a lake together with friends. I work in my holidays and I bought a car last year aswell. Wow. My life is full of conflicts and I am a bad person. I am direct in RL aswell as here and I don't have any problems. How should I interpret your words? There are way too many pubertal world-changers who believe every crap they hear somewhere. Yay, really mature of you to say that other people, who don't agree with your opinion, have no opinion. Really mature to call them "pubertal". Really really mature. You're such an intelligent person. Julian's sentence, that you will have conflicts in your life, obviously referred to situations when you're facing people with different beliefs, attitudes and origins, i.e. not your family and friends - which a person who is "good in school" should have understood right away, but k. And yes, we all just have too much time to waste on the internet, said the person who wrote 660 posts in just 9 months. We believe every crap we hear somewhere, said the person who believes every negative crap about Israel he hears somewhere and is too narrow-minded to accept other positions. So clever, wow. Just let it be. You're not getting yourself anywhere. |
|
