Germany in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016

Put the money towards 2017?

I wrote "If". I didn't write: "Please select internally and give us Ivy, Andreas, Namika etc". I wrote: "If you want us to be represented etc, then". Sorry if that was misleading. English is not our native language, so I can't express myself as well as I could in German and you maybe interpret it differently.

"if he were that unpopular, how had he won BuViSoCo three years ago?"

He won Bundesvision some years ago because he was the only famous act. Usually, there are around 5 or 6 established artists and the rest are newcomers. But in that year it was really extreme. XAVAS were the only act that anyone had already heard of. There was heavy criticism because of that. He literally got booed on stage because he didn't even sing good; only won because he was more famous than the rest.
(LAING, the second place of that year, were a total nobody and came 2nd. That says a lot)

I didn't read that as well. But do I understand it correctly that if the internally selected singer was Ivy, Andreas, Namika or someone else, there wouldn't be such a giant shitstorm towards him or her?


Now it seems to me that there're two different Germanys... one votes completely unknown singers at the Eurovision selections (2004, 2006, 2014-15), the other votes at BuViSoCo for the more famous acts, really?
(and just out of curiousity - weren't Luxuslärm already quite established back then? tbh, 2013's or 2015's line-up seems MUCH more unknown to me, but I'm not that much into German music and might fail to know some names which are known in Germany)

(Sorry that I'm too stupid to quote it beautifully. Quotes in italics)

"I didn't read that as well. But do I understand it correctly that if the internally selected singer was Ivy, Andreas, Namika or someone else, there wouldn't be such a giant shitstorm towards him or her?"

More or less: yes. As I wrote on the pages before, there are 3 factors that caused the shitstorm: 1) internal selection 2) many people don't like Xavier's singing or his songs*, 3) we find it questionable if a person with such political views would be suitable to represent our country at that particular event.

If it were Ivy, Andreas, Namika or someone else, only the first factor would apply. Hence, the shitstorm would be smaller.

*I'm not saying that there are more people who like Ivy, Andreas, Namika than people who like Xavier. Sale numbers obviously prove the opposite. He has his fans. But Xavier is, and I'm only talking about singing and songs, a veeery polarizing singer.

"Now it seems to me that there're two different Germanys... one votes completely unknown singers at the Eurovision selections (2004, 2006, 2014-15), the other votes at BuViSoCo for the more famous acts, really?
(and just out of curiousity - weren't Luxuslärm already quite established back then? tbh, 2013's or 2015's line-up seems MUCH more unknown to me, but I'm not that much into German music and might fail to know some names which are known in Germany)"

In 2004 we didn't vote for an unknown singer. Max Mutzke already won Stefan Raab's show and was on number 1 in , already before the actual preselection for Eurovision started. So he was not an unknown singer; he was actually the big favourite.

In 2006 Texas Lightning won. This is the band of Olli Dittrich, who is famous as well. So Texas Lightning weren't completely unknown either.

2014 was Elaiza and 2015 was Ann Sophie. Well. I probably wrote it somewhere before: There is this thing called "clubconcert bonus". Elaiza and Ann Sophie won the clubconcert, so they already had fans who voted for them. And then in the actual preselection those fans obviously voted for Elaiza and Ann Sophie again, because they probably thought: "I spent all my money on voting for them in the clubconcert... I don't want to have spent this money for nothing!". So they voted for them again.

In Elaiza's case, many people primarily voted for Elaiza because they didn't want Unheilig to win. This was the special David-vs-Goliath moment. Similar to XAVAS in BuViSoCo 2012, Unheilig was the biiig favourite and most-famous act there but didn't have a good song or vocal performance. So people really wanted to see Elaiza beat this star. And it worked

As for Ann Sophie's case: Well... we all know how that happened She didn't win. The famous guy Andreas Kümmert (who admittedly sang really well) won.