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Post by Kyron on Oct 6, 2015 4:38:32 GMT 1
As I had promised once, I´ll try to post some kind of a description of the Áredian language, even though I doubt someone will find it anyhow interesting Alphabet and orthography: The letter | Pronunciation | Like in (Engju, unless otherwise noted) | Notes | A | [ a ] | Allemanju Katze | | Á | [ja] | Allem. ja | | Â | [æ] | cat | Observed only in Énárian | B | [ b ] | Bob | | C | [t͡s]
| cats | Rare; changes into [tʃ] after accented vowels | D | [d] | Dad | Changes into [dz] after accented vowels | E | [e] | Frenju aller | | É | [je] | Fr. mienne | | Ĕ | [ə] | taken | Observed only in Énárian; pronounced extremely short | F | [f] | fix | | G | [g] | get | | H | [h] | hat | | I | [ɪ] | kid | | Í | [i:] | seen | | J | [ʒ] | genre | | K | [k] | cat | | L | [l] | lamp | Changes into [ʎ] (like in Espaneole llamo) after accented vowels in the quick colloquial speech | M | [m] | Sam | | N | [n] | no | | O | [o] | All. oder (without the glottal stop though) | | Ó | [jo] | your | | P | [ p ] | pit | | R | [r] | Esp. perro | | S | [ s ] | sad | Changes into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels | T | [t] | text | Changes into [t͡s] after accented vowels | U | [ u ] | push | | Ú | [ju] | you | | V | [v] | vault | | Y | [y] | Fr. une | Rare, mostly in placenames | Ý | [jy] | music (though much more tense) | Observed only in two placenames | Z | [z] | zero | Changes into [ʒ] after accented vowels |
The orthography of the Áredian language is mostly phonemic, the only incovenience for the non-native speakers is the not very predictable change of into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels. In the latter case the spelling convention is to write "c" instead of "s" in this case, e.g.: the dative of iners (law) is inercí [in'ertʃi:] , while the dative for bris (gold) is brisín ['briʃi:n]. There are several rules which cover the majority of cases but still some exceptions have to be memorized by heart. Nouns and their morphology:
All the nouns in Áredian belong to one of three genders. Masculine nouns end in -o or have no ending at all in their nominal form, feminine nouns end in -a, -e or -é and neuter nouns end in -i. The trend is that neuter gender is gradually disappearing from the language: there's no neuter form for adjectives (if neuter nouns are modified by an adjective, they take the masculine form), the corresponding personal pronoun ó is shifting its meaning towards "common gender" (used when the gender or the sex of the person is not important), many neuter nouns have acquired an alternative way of declension (mostly the masculine one). Áredian nouns are heavily declined for case. The grammarians usually split all the forms into the basic cases (whose endings may differ depending on the type of declension) and the additional cases (which use the same suffixes for all the nouns). Though this classification is largely subjective, we will stick to it in order to give the quick overview of the case forms in Áredian. The basic cases are as follows: Engju name | Áredian name | Meaning | Example | Translation | Nominative | Rindai forma | subject of an intransitive verbb (e.g. to go, to walk, to sleep etc.), object of several existential verbs (e.g. to be, to become, to remain) | bur | a house | Subjective | Subékti forma | subject of a transitive verb (e.g. to see smth, to know smth etc.) | i buren | a house (does something) | Accusative | Obékti forma | direct object | bure | (something does) the house | Dative | Úrtesobékti forma | indirect object | burín | to the house | Locative | Gali forma | location | burens | in the house | Instrumental | Praniái forma | means or way of the action | burem | by means of the house, with the help of the house | Partitive | Ciferi forma | used after the numbers and quantifiers (like "a cup of...", "a jar of...") | burene | (a portion) of the house | Possessive | Fáimeri forma | possession (mostly direct, like "father's car") | buri | house's, of the house |
In order to avoid ambiguity it should be noted that, unlike in Kerwanese, the partitive case is never used as an object of the verb to express unfinished actions. Below are some more examples of different declension paradigms of Áredian nouns:
| masc. "silent" declension gal - place, location | masc. -en declension fév - boy | masc. -o declension álo - time | masc. irregular hans - man | fem. -e declension ame - mother | fem. -a declension kiha - night | fem. -é declension naté - folk, nation | neut. neuter declension mali - mountain | Nom. | gal | fév | álo | hans | ame | kiha | naté | mali | Subj. | i gal | i féven | i álos | i han | e ama | e kihiá | e natá | i mali | Acc. | gale | féve | ále | henne | ame | kihe | nate | male | Dat. | galí | févín | álón | héní | amuí | kihua | natú | malí | Loc. | galos | févens | álons | hanos | amas | kihas | natés | malis | Ins. | galom | févem | álom | hanom | amam* | kiham | natém | malim | Part. | galei | févene | álois | henis | amai | kihiái | natái | malí | Poss. | gali | févi | áli | héni | amei | kihei | natéi | malí |
* - also amma in colloquial speech It is necessary to mention that the endings are slightly different in the more conservative Énárian dialect (e.g. the silent declension preserves ě in the subjective case - nom. gal, subj. ei galě, acc. gale - or there's no homonymy between the nominative and accusative cases of the feminine -e declension - nom. ama, subj. ea amea, acc. ame) The additional cases are really numerous, around 15-20 depending on who's counting. For the quick overview we'll take the bunch of locative cases which are formed from the locative forms of the nouns + case suffix. For example: | Meaning | Suffix | masc. val - land | fem. lokaté - location | neut. mali - mountain | Locative | in | various | valens | lokatés | malis | Illative | into | Loc. + -t | valenst | lokatést | malist | Elative | out of | Loc. + -aih | valensaih | lokatésaih | malisaih | Ablative | (moving) away from | Loc. + -úrt | valensúrt | lokatésúrt | malisúrt | Adessive | on | Loc. + -inna | valensinna | lokatésinna | malisinna | Proximative | near, at | Loc. + -taip | valenstaip | lokatéstaip | malistaip | Distantive | (being) away from | Loc. + -úr | valensúr | lokatésúr | malisúr |
Most of the other cases are formed with the help of the accusative and dative forms. Despite the complex case system, the formation of the plural is really simple in the standard Áredian. All you have to do is to insert the plural suffix -ed- between the stem of the noun and the case ending. Thus for example, the nouns gal and álo decline as follows in the plural: | gal | álo | Nom. | galed | áledo | Subj. | i galed | í áledos | Acc. | galede | álede | Dat. | galedí | áledón | Loc. | galedos | áledons | Ins. | galedom | áledom | Part. | galedei | áledois | Poss. | galedi | áledi | Ill. | galedost | áledonst | Prox. | galedostaip | áledonstaip |
The conservative Énárian dialect however preserves some of the distinct plural endings, for example, -este for accusative plural and -eksis for dative plural. The last thing to mention in this quick overview of the Áredian nominal morphology is the subjective marker. It is actually the vestige of the definite article which could be declined for all the basic cases (and it still does perform this function in the Énárian dialect), however nowadays it is used in order to define the subject of the sentence. It is still declined for two cases: | masc./neut.
| fem. | Subj. | i | e | Ins. | ém | ám |
The instrumental subjective marker is used in the structure which serves as the substitute for the non-existent passive voice in the Áredian.
In the next series (if I actually find some courage for two more hours of typing and struggling with tables ) - verbs and some basic vocabulary )
As a languages and linguistics student, I found this very interesting and very well-explained! *gives his approval*
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Post by nick on Oct 6, 2015 6:15:08 GMT 1
As I had promised once, I´ll try to post some kind of a description of the Áredian language, even though I doubt someone will find it anyhow interesting Alphabet and orthography: The letter | Pronunciation | Like in (Engju, unless otherwise noted) | Notes | A | [ a ] | Allemanju Katze | | Á | [ja] | Allem. ja | | Â | [æ] | cat | Observed only in Énárian | B | [ b ] | Bob | | C | [t͡s]
| cats | Rare; changes into [tʃ] after accented vowels | D | [d] | Dad | Changes into [dz] after accented vowels | E | [e] | Frenju aller | | É | [je] | Fr. mienne | | Ĕ | [ə] | taken | Observed only in Énárian; pronounced extremely short | F | [f] | fix | | G | [g] | get | | H | [h] | hat | | I | [ɪ] | kid | | Í | [i:] | seen | | J | [ʒ] | genre | | K | [k] | cat | | L | [l] | lamp | Changes into [ʎ] (like in Espaneole llamo) after accented vowels in the quick colloquial speech | M | [m] | Sam | | N | [n] | no | | O | [o] | All. oder (without the glottal stop though) | | Ó | [jo] | your | | P | [ p ] | pit | | R | [r] | Esp. perro | | S | [ s ] | sad | Changes into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels | T | [t] | text | Changes into [t͡s] after accented vowels | U | [ u ] | push | | Ú | [ju] | you | | V | [v] | vault | | Y | [y] | Fr. une | Rare, mostly in placenames | Ý | [jy] | music (though much more tense) | Observed only in two placenames | Z | [z] | zero | Changes into [ʒ] after accented vowels |
The orthography of the Áredian language is mostly phonemic, the only incovenience for the non-native speakers is the not very predictable change of into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels. In the latter case the spelling convention is to write "c" instead of "s" in this case, e.g.: the dative of iners (law) is inercí [in'ertʃi:] , while the dative for bris (gold) is brisín ['briʃi:n]. There are several rules which cover the majority of cases but still some exceptions have to be memorized by heart. Nouns and their morphology:
All the nouns in Áredian belong to one of three genders. Masculine nouns end in -o or have no ending at all in their nominal form, feminine nouns end in -a, -e or -é and neuter nouns end in -i. The trend is that neuter gender is gradually disappearing from the language: there's no neuter form for adjectives (if neuter nouns are modified by an adjective, they take the masculine form), the corresponding personal pronoun ó is shifting its meaning towards "common gender" (used when the gender or the sex of the person is not important), many neuter nouns have acquired an alternative way of declension (mostly the masculine one). Áredian nouns are heavily declined for case. The grammarians usually split all the forms into the basic cases (whose endings may differ depending on the type of declension) and the additional cases (which use the same suffixes for all the nouns). Though this classification is largely subjective, we will stick to it in order to give the quick overview of the case forms in Áredian. The basic cases are as follows: Engju name | Áredian name | Meaning | Example | Translation | Nominative | Rindai forma | subject of an intransitive verbb (e.g. to go, to walk, to sleep etc.), object of several existential verbs (e.g. to be, to become, to remain) | bur | a house | Subjective | Subékti forma | subject of a transitive verb (e.g. to see smth, to know smth etc.) | i buren | a house (does something) | Accusative | Obékti forma | direct object | bure | (something does) the house | Dative | Úrtesobékti forma | indirect object | burín | to the house | Locative | Gali forma | location | burens | in the house | Instrumental | Praniái forma | means or way of the action | burem | by means of the house, with the help of the house | Partitive | Ciferi forma | used after the numbers and quantifiers (like "a cup of...", "a jar of...") | burene | (a portion) of the house | Possessive | Fáimeri forma | possession (mostly direct, like "father's car") | buri | house's, of the house |
In order to avoid ambiguity it should be noted that, unlike in Kerwanese, the partitive case is never used as an object of the verb to express unfinished actions. Below are some more examples of different declension paradigms of Áredian nouns:
| masc. "silent" declension gal - place, location | masc. -en declension fév - boy | masc. -o declension álo - time | masc. irregular hans - man | fem. -e declension ame - mother | fem. -a declension kiha - night | fem. -é declension naté - folk, nation | neut. neuter declension mali - mountain | Nom. | gal | fév | álo | hans | ame | kiha | naté | mali | Subj. | i gal | i féven | i álos | i han | e ama | e kihiá | e natá | i mali | Acc. | gale | féve | ále | henne | ame | kihe | nate | male | Dat. | galí | févín | álón | héní | amuí | kihua | natú | malí | Loc. | galos | févens | álons | hanos | amas | kihas | natés | malis | Ins. | galom | févem | álom | hanom | amam* | kiham | natém | malim | Part. | galei | févene | álois | henis | amai | kihiái | natái | malí | Poss. | gali | févi | áli | héni | amei | kihei | natéi | malí |
* - also amma in colloquial speech It is necessary to mention that the endings are slightly different in the more conservative Énárian dialect (e.g. the silent declension preserves ě in the subjective case - nom. gal, subj. ei galě, acc. gale - or there's no homonymy between the nominative and accusative cases of the feminine -e declension - nom. ama, subj. ea amea, acc. ame) The additional cases are really numerous, around 15-20 depending on who's counting. For the quick overview we'll take the bunch of locative cases which are formed from the locative forms of the nouns + case suffix. For example: | Meaning | Suffix | masc. val - land | fem. lokaté - location | neut. mali - mountain | Locative | in | various | valens | lokatés | malis | Illative | into | Loc. + -t | valenst | lokatést | malist | Elative | out of | Loc. + -aih | valensaih | lokatésaih | malisaih | Ablative | (moving) away from | Loc. + -úrt | valensúrt | lokatésúrt | malisúrt | Adessive | on | Loc. + -inna | valensinna | lokatésinna | malisinna | Proximative | near, at | Loc. + -taip | valenstaip | lokatéstaip | malistaip | Distantive | (being) away from | Loc. + -úr | valensúr | lokatésúr | malisúr |
Most of the other cases are formed with the help of the accusative and dative forms. Despite the complex case system, the formation of the plural is really simple in the standard Áredian. All you have to do is to insert the plural suffix -ed- between the stem of the noun and the case ending. Thus for example, the nouns gal and álo decline as follows in the plural: | gal | álo | Nom. | galed | áledo | Subj. | i galed | í áledos | Acc. | galede | álede | Dat. | galedí | áledón | Loc. | galedos | áledons | Ins. | galedom | áledom | Part. | galedei | áledois | Poss. | galedi | áledi | Ill. | galedost | áledonst | Prox. | galedostaip | áledonstaip |
The conservative Énárian dialect however preserves some of the distinct plural endings, for example, -este for accusative plural and -eksis for dative plural. The last thing to mention in this quick overview of the Áredian nominal morphology is the subjective marker. It is actually the vestige of the definite article which could be declined for all the basic cases (and it still does perform this function in the Énárian dialect), however nowadays it is used in order to define the subject of the sentence. It is still declined for two cases: | masc./neut.
| fem. | Subj. | i | e | Ins. | ém | ám |
The instrumental subjective marker is used in the structure which serves as the substitute for the non-existent passive voice in the Áredian.
In the next series (if I actually find some courage for two more hours of typing and struggling with tables ) - verbs and some basic vocabulary )
holy fuck I live for shit like this :DD Thanks for sharing! Now I feel like I'm cheating by just using Google Translate and bastardizing Finnish
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 18:25:02 GMT 1
As I had promised once, I´ll try to post some kind of a description of the Áredian language, even though I doubt someone will find it anyhow interesting Alphabet and orthography: The letter | Pronunciation | Like in (Engju, unless otherwise noted) | Notes | A | [ a ] | Allemanju Katze | | Á | [ja] | Allem. ja | | Â | [æ] | cat | Observed only in Énárian | B | [ b ] | Bob | | C | [t͡s]
| cats | Rare; changes into [tʃ] after accented vowels | D | [d] | Dad | Changes into [dz] after accented vowels | E | [e] | Frenju aller | | É | [je] | Fr. mienne | | Ĕ | [ə] | taken | Observed only in Énárian; pronounced extremely short | F | [f] | fix | | G | [g] | get | | H | [h] | hat | | I | [ɪ] | kid | | Í | [i:] | seen | | J | [ʒ] | genre | | K | [k] | cat | | L | [l] | lamp | Changes into [ʎ] (like in Espaneole llamo) after accented vowels in the quick colloquial speech | M | [m] | Sam | | N | [n] | no | | O | [o] | All. oder (without the glottal stop though) | | Ó | [jo] | your | | P | [ p ] | pit | | R | [r] | Esp. perro | | S | [ s ] | sad | Changes into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels | T | [t] | text | Changes into [t͡s] after accented vowels | U | [ u ] | push | | Ú | [ju] | you | | V | [v] | vault | | Y | [y] | Fr. une | Rare, mostly in placenames | Ý | [jy] | music (though much more tense) | Observed only in two placenames | Z | [z] | zero | Changes into [ʒ] after accented vowels |
The orthography of the Áredian language is mostly phonemic, the only incovenience for the non-native speakers is the not very predictable change of into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels. In the latter case the spelling convention is to write "c" instead of "s" in this case, e.g.: the dative of iners (law) is inercí [in'ertʃi:] , while the dative for bris (gold) is brisín ['briʃi:n]. There are several rules which cover the majority of cases but still some exceptions have to be memorized by heart. Nouns and their morphology:
All the nouns in Áredian belong to one of three genders. Masculine nouns end in -o or have no ending at all in their nominal form, feminine nouns end in -a, -e or -é and neuter nouns end in -i. The trend is that neuter gender is gradually disappearing from the language: there's no neuter form for adjectives (if neuter nouns are modified by an adjective, they take the masculine form), the corresponding personal pronoun ó is shifting its meaning towards "common gender" (used when the gender or the sex of the person is not important), many neuter nouns have acquired an alternative way of declension (mostly the masculine one). Áredian nouns are heavily declined for case. The grammarians usually split all the forms into the basic cases (whose endings may differ depending on the type of declension) and the additional cases (which use the same suffixes for all the nouns). Though this classification is largely subjective, we will stick to it in order to give the quick overview of the case forms in Áredian. The basic cases are as follows: Engju name | Áredian name | Meaning | Example | Translation | Nominative | Rindai forma | subject of an intransitive verbb (e.g. to go, to walk, to sleep etc.), object of several existential verbs (e.g. to be, to become, to remain) | bur | a house | Subjective | Subékti forma | subject of a transitive verb (e.g. to see smth, to know smth etc.) | i buren | a house (does something) | Accusative | Obékti forma | direct object | bure | (something does) the house | Dative | Úrtesobékti forma | indirect object | burín | to the house | Locative | Gali forma | location | burens | in the house | Instrumental | Praniái forma | means or way of the action | burem | by means of the house, with the help of the house | Partitive | Ciferi forma | used after the numbers and quantifiers (like "a cup of...", "a jar of...") | burene | (a portion) of the house | Possessive | Fáimeri forma | possession (mostly direct, like "father's car") | buri | house's, of the house |
In order to avoid ambiguity it should be noted that, unlike in Kerwanese, the partitive case is never used as an object of the verb to express unfinished actions. Below are some more examples of different declension paradigms of Áredian nouns:
| masc. "silent" declension gal - place, location | masc. -en declension fév - boy | masc. -o declension álo - time | masc. irregular hans - man | fem. -e declension ame - mother | fem. -a declension kiha - night | fem. -é declension naté - folk, nation | neut. neuter declension mali - mountain | Nom. | gal | fév | álo | hans | ame | kiha | naté | mali | Subj. | i gal | i féven | i álos | i han | e ama | e kihiá | e natá | i mali | Acc. | gale | féve | ále | henne | ame | kihe | nate | male | Dat. | galí | févín | álón | héní | amuí | kihua | natú | malí | Loc. | galos | févens | álons | hanos | amas | kihas | natés | malis | Ins. | galom | févem | álom | hanom | amam* | kiham | natém | malim | Part. | galei | févene | álois | henis | amai | kihiái | natái | malí | Poss. | gali | févi | áli | héni | amei | kihei | natéi | malí |
* - also amma in colloquial speech It is necessary to mention that the endings are slightly different in the more conservative Énárian dialect (e.g. the silent declension preserves ě in the subjective case - nom. gal, subj. ei galě, acc. gale - or there's no homonymy between the nominative and accusative cases of the feminine -e declension - nom. ama, subj. ea amea, acc. ame) The additional cases are really numerous, around 15-20 depending on who's counting. For the quick overview we'll take the bunch of locative cases which are formed from the locative forms of the nouns + case suffix. For example: | Meaning | Suffix | masc. val - land | fem. lokaté - location | neut. mali - mountain | Locative | in | various | valens | lokatés | malis | Illative | into | Loc. + -t | valenst | lokatést | malist | Elative | out of | Loc. + -aih | valensaih | lokatésaih | malisaih | Ablative | (moving) away from | Loc. + -úrt | valensúrt | lokatésúrt | malisúrt | Adessive | on | Loc. + -inna | valensinna | lokatésinna | malisinna | Proximative | near, at | Loc. + -taip | valenstaip | lokatéstaip | malistaip | Distantive | (being) away from | Loc. + -úr | valensúr | lokatésúr | malisúr |
Most of the other cases are formed with the help of the accusative and dative forms. Despite the complex case system, the formation of the plural is really simple in the standard Áredian. All you have to do is to insert the plural suffix -ed- between the stem of the noun and the case ending. Thus for example, the nouns gal and álo decline as follows in the plural: | gal | álo | Nom. | galed | áledo | Subj. | i galed | í áledos | Acc. | galede | álede | Dat. | galedí | áledón | Loc. | galedos | áledons | Ins. | galedom | áledom | Part. | galedei | áledois | Poss. | galedi | áledi | Ill. | galedost | áledonst | Prox. | galedostaip | áledonstaip |
The conservative Énárian dialect however preserves some of the distinct plural endings, for example, -este for accusative plural and -eksis for dative plural. The last thing to mention in this quick overview of the Áredian nominal morphology is the subjective marker. It is actually the vestige of the definite article which could be declined for all the basic cases (and it still does perform this function in the Énárian dialect), however nowadays it is used in order to define the subject of the sentence. It is still declined for two cases: | masc./neut.
| fem. | Subj. | i | e | Ins. | ém | ám |
The instrumental subjective marker is used in the structure which serves as the substitute for the non-existent passive voice in the Áredian.
In the next series (if I actually find some courage for two more hours of typing and struggling with tables ) - verbs and some basic vocabulary )
As a languages and linguistics student, I found this very interesting and very well-explained! *gives his approval* as a languages and linguistics teacher, I'm really glad to finally see some student approving of what I do Seriously though, thanks I hope you'll do something similar with Vradiw maybe As I had promised once, I´ll try to post some kind of a description of the Áredian language, even though I doubt someone will find it anyhow interesting Alphabet and orthography: The letter | Pronunciation | Like in (Engju,
unless otherwise noted) | Notes | A | [ a ] | Allemanju
Katze | | Á | [ja] | Allem. ja | | Â | [æ] | cat | Observed only in Énárian | B | [ b ] | Bob | | C | [t͡s]
| cats | Rare; changes into [tʃ] after accented vowels | D | [d] | Dad | Changes into [dz] after accented vowels | E | [e] | Frenju aller | | É | [je] | Fr. mienne | | Ĕ | [ə] | taken | Observed only in Énárian; pronounced extremely short | F | [f] | fix | | G | [g] | get | | H | [h] | hat | | I | [ɪ] | kid | | Í | [i:] | seen | | J | [ʒ] | genre | | K | [k] | cat | | L | [l] | lamp | Changes into [ʎ] (like in Espaneole llamo) after accented vowels
in the quick colloquial speech | M | [m] | Sam | | N | [n] | no | | O | [o] | All. oder
(without the glottal stop though) | | Ó | [jo] | your | | P | [ p ] | pit | | R | [r] | Esp. perro | | S | [ s ] | sad | Changes into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels | T | [t] | text | Changes into [t͡s] after accented vowels | U | [ u ] | push | | Ú | [ju] | you | | V | [v] | vault | | Y | [y] | Fr. une | Rare, mostly in placenames | Ý | [jy] | music (though much more tense) | Observed only in two placenames | Z | [z] | zero | Changes into [ʒ] after accented vowels |
The orthography of the Áredian language is mostly phonemic, the only incovenience for the non-native speakers is the not very predictable change of into [ʃ] or [tʃ] after accented vowels. In the latter case the spelling convention is to write "c" instead of "s" in this case, e.g.: the dative of iners (law) is inercí [in'ertʃi:] , while the dative for bris (gold) is brisín ['briʃi:n]. There are several rules which cover the majority of cases but still some exceptions have to be memorized by heart. Nouns and their morphology:
All the nouns in Áredian belong to one of three genders. Masculine nouns end in -o or have no ending at all in their nominal form, feminine nouns end in -a, -e or -é and neuter nouns end in -i. The trend is that neuter gender is gradually disappearing from the language: there's no neuter form for adjectives (if neuter nouns are modified by an adjective, they take the masculine form), the corresponding personal pronoun ó is shifting its meaning towards "common gender" (used when the gender or the sex of the person is not important), many neuter nouns have acquired an alternative way of declension (mostly the masculine one). Áredian nouns are heavily declined for case. The grammarians usually split all the forms into the basic cases (whose endings may differ depending on the type of declension) and the additional cases (which use the same suffixes for all the nouns). Though this classification is largely subjective, we will stick to it in order to give the quick overview of the case forms in Áredian. The basic cases are as follows: Engju name | Áredian name | Meaning | Example | Translation | Nominative | Rindai forma | subject of an intransitive verbb (e.g. to go, to walk, to sleep etc.),
object of several existential verbs (e.g. to be, to become, to remain) | bur | a house | Subjective | Subékti forma | subject of a transitive verb (e.g. to see smth, to know smth etc.) | i buren | a house (does something) | Accusative | Obékti forma | direct object | bure | (something does) the house | Dative | Úrtesobékti forma | indirect object | burín | to the house | Locative | Gali forma | location | burens | in the house | Instrumental | Praniái forma | means or way of the action | burem | by means of the house,
with the help of the house | Partitive | Ciferi forma | used after the numbers and quantifiers (like "a cup of...", "a jar of...") | burene | (a portion) of the house | Possessive | Fáimeri forma | possession (mostly direct, like "father's car") | buri | house's, of the house |
In order to avoid ambiguity it should be noted that, unlike in Kerwanese, the partitive case is never used as an object of the verb to express unfinished actions. Below are some more examples of different declension paradigms of Áredian nouns:
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"silent" declension gal - place, location | masc. -en declension fév - boy | masc. -o declension álo - time | masc. irregular hans - man | fem. -e declension ame - mother | fem. -a declension kiha - night | fem. -é declension naté - folk, nation | neut. neuter declension mali - mountain | Nom. | gal | fév | álo | hans | ame | kiha | naté | mali | Subj. | i gal | i féven | i álos | i han | e ama | e kihiá | e natá | i mali | Acc. | gale | féve | ále | henne | ame | kihe | nate | male | Dat. | galí | févín | álón | héní | amuí | kihua | natú | malí | Loc. | galos | févens | álons | hanos | amas | kihas | natés | malis | Ins. | galom | févem | álom | hanom | amam* | kiham | natém | malim | Part. | galei | févene | álois | henis | amai | kihiái | natái | malí | Poss. | gali | févi | áli | héni | amei | kihei | natéi | malí |
* - also amma in colloquial speech It is necessary to mention that the endings are slightly different in the more conservative Énárian dialect (e.g. the silent declension preserves ě in the subjective case - nom. gal, subj. ei galě, acc. gale - or there's no homonymy between the nominative and accusative cases of the feminine -e declension - nom. ama, subj. ea amea, acc. ame) The additional cases are really numerous, around 15-20 depending on who's counting. For the quick overview we'll take the bunch of locative cases which are formed from the locative forms of the nouns + case suffix. For example: | Meaning | Suffix | masc.
val - land | fem.
lokaté - location | neut.
mali - mountain | Locative | in | various | valens | lokatés | malis | Illative | into | Loc. + -t | valenst | lokatést | malist | Elative | out of | Loc. + -aih | valensaih | lokatésaih | malisaih | Ablative | (moving) away from | Loc. + -úrt | valensúrt | lokatésúrt | malisúrt | Adessive | on | Loc. + -inna | valensinna | lokatésinna | malisinna | Proximative | near, at | Loc. + -taip | valenstaip | lokatéstaip | malistaip | Distantive | (being) away from | Loc. + -úr | valensúr | lokatésúr | malisúr |
Most of the other cases are formed with the help of the accusative and dative forms. Despite the complex case system, the formation of the plural is really simple in the standard Áredian. All you have to do is to insert the plural suffix -ed- between the stem of the noun and the case ending. Thus for example, the nouns gal and álo decline as follows in the plural: | gal | álo | Nom. | galed | áledo | Subj. | i galed | í áledos | Acc. | galede | álede | Dat. | galedí | áledón | Loc. | galedos | áledons | Ins. | galedom | áledom | Part. | galedei | áledois | Poss. | galedi | áledi | Ill. | galedost | áledonst | Prox. | galedostaip | áledonstaip |
The conservative Énárian dialect however preserves some of the distinct plural endings, for example, -este for accusative plural and -eksis for dative plural. The last thing to mention in this quick overview of the Áredian nominal morphology is the subjective marker. It is actually the vestige of the definite article which could be declined for all the basic cases (and it still does perform this function in the Énárian dialect), however nowadays it is used in order to define the subject of the sentence. It is still declined for two cases: | masc./neut.
| fem. | Subj. | i | e | Ins. | ém | ám |
The instrumental subjective marker is used in the structure which serves as the substitute for the non-existent passive voice in the Áredian.
In the next series (if I actually find some courage for two more hours of typing and struggling with tables ) - verbs and some basic vocabulary )
holy fuck I live for shit like this :DD Thanks for sharing! Now I feel like I'm cheating by just using Google Translate and bastardizing Finnish well, there's no requirement to be a linguistics geek in order to enter the contest and to be completely honest, I enrolled here with the primary aim to find some usage for the language, lol. anyway, thanks for appreciating
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Post by Logan on Oct 6, 2015 18:39:25 GMT 1
Pohunskan is the official language of Pohunskia. If this was a real life language then it would be German, Gaelic, Albanian, Polish, Hungarian, Slovakian and Czech put into one language. I want to see this language
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Post by Kyron on Oct 6, 2015 20:52:59 GMT 1
As a languages and linguistics student, I found this very interesting and very well-explained! *gives his approval* as a languages and linguistics teacher, I'm really glad to finally see some student approving of what I do Seriously though, thanks I hope you'll do something similar with Vradiw maybe Lol what a troll I totally believed it hahaha Thanks! In fact I do have tons and tons of notes about Vradiw, since I started creating it like 8 years ago Maybe I'll compile it all in one single document someday
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 21:02:25 GMT 1
as a languages and linguistics teacher, I'm really glad to finally see some student approving of what I do Seriously though, thanks I hope you'll do something similar with Vradiw maybe Lol what a troll I totally believed it hahaha Thanks! In fact I do have tons and tons of notes about Vradiw, since I started creating it like 8 years ago Maybe I'll compile it all in one single document someday why a troll? I've been completely serious wow, that's really a long time... so I really hope to learn something about it one day
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Post by Kyron on Oct 6, 2015 21:20:49 GMT 1
Lol what a troll I totally believed it hahaha Thanks! In fact I do have tons and tons of notes about Vradiw, since I started creating it like 8 years ago Maybe I'll compile it all in one single document someday why a troll? I've been completely serious wow, that's really a long time... so I really hope to learn something about it one day Lol then I've been trolled twice hahaha Well most of my notes have to do with vocabulary, pronunciation and Vradiazi stuff like time, calendar, astronomy, etc. I also have grammar rules but not that much because I quit using declensions haha (none of the languages I speak have them and I find it quite difficult since I have to think before speaking )
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Post by nick on Oct 6, 2015 23:07:45 GMT 1
people in this thread speak multiple languages and make up their own and here i am, barely fluent in fucking english and trying to learn Finnish, honestly, i'm so done
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2015 10:43:11 GMT 1
Assasynia Accepts 2 New Languages Assasynia Accepts Valvetian and Selrena as an ofc languages in the Country:
Valvetian(mix of Romanian, Italian and Greek) is a language spoken in Valvetian Region.Before Illativians came to Assasynian Region,the Valvetian was a mix of Romanian(how it is called in FC ) and Demacian!With Illativians Conquering of Valvet,Valvetians accepted their Culture and they included Illativian things in their Language.Valvetian Language was never Accepted in Assasynia until now.Doge of falgassasynia Assasynia Ezio Auditore decided to let Valvetian use their Own Language and maybe they wont make problems any more with Kerwan.
Selrena is a language mostly accepted in Alkyria but as Selrenians are registered not just there.A lot of Selrenians are in Assasynia too.The Reason why the language is Accepted now is cause people never knew If the people that are Selrenians are Selrenians.The scientist confirmed that a mouth ago and Ezio decided to check it out.After finding out about the Truth few days ago he decided to let Selrenians have their own language and Culture.
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Post by Black Butterfly on Nov 16, 2015 21:25:24 GMT 1
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