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Post by fabbi on Jul 4, 2018 18:27:20 GMT 1
I voted for the combined one as I'd actually like to see that happening.
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Post by Josh's Tattoo (Inactive) on Jul 4, 2018 18:34:06 GMT 1
I'd like to see the combined one
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Post by Dylan on Jul 4, 2018 19:31:50 GMT 1
while it would be interesting, my vote doesn't change
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Post by Gilberto on Jul 5, 2018 6:34:18 GMT 1
The more I think about it, the less I like the FIFA system. 1) A "grand final" with only 1/4 of the songs would be everything but "grand" in my opinion. Voting in a final where you are not, and where most of your favourites are probably eliminated, is quite annoying. 2) Being in the "grand final" would be much more a matter of luck than of quality of the song. 3) I'm afraid that some players would be tempted to organise block votes with their friends. This kind of "strategy" is easy to notice with the classic system of votes ... but absolutely not when everyone has to choose between two songs.4) I'm also afraid that because of 1) 2) and 3) many players would decide to withdraw. And we can definitely say that the number of participants will certainly be higher if we have only deep research than deep research and FIFA system: in the first case, only players who dislike deep research would withdraw, and in the second one, players who dislike deep research OR FIFA system would withdraw. If we want this edition to be the most successful, I think there is only one possible vote. My decision is not taken in case of victory of the combined system but I can imagine the cruel dilemma: my song would certainly have better chances to get an AQ spot or even to win against unknown songs but I really don't want to gamble. If I had to give a trend, I would say that if the combined vote is chosen, there is a probability of 30% that I maintain my song for edition #35 and 70% that I preserve it for edition #36. While I understand and respect your other reasons, I really have to say something about the bold text. Maybe you are jumping a little ahead without knowing how that sytem would work exactly. In the first round, it's planned that one third, or even half or the participants vote in every group. For example, groups A - D are the first third, if you participate in group B, you have to vote for your 2 favorite songs from group A, C and D. If you are in group A, you have to vote in groups B, C and D...and so on. In the second round, EVERYONE votes for their favorite in each match. Let's exaggerate and say there are 40 participants this edition because 14 didn't like the theme. A song within a match would need at least 20 votes to win. If after knowing this you still think there's a chance that block voting may happen and would affect the result, then I have a longer answer ready. But anyway, just the fact that you think that FoM participants would be ''tempted to form block votes with their friends'' is something that speaks very loud for you, and not in a very positive way. And also I have to say that, as a host, I know it's impossible to make everyone happy but my main goal is to at least have most of my participants pleased with it. You and everyone are free to withdraw for one edition, I'll respect that decision and I won't take it personal, of course.
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Post by ferrygraf on Jul 5, 2018 10:42:57 GMT 1
I'm in favor of the combined themes (they were my two choices as I wrote before), I'd just like to see how this tournament mode works out in the end, and right now at this time it would fit perfectly. Of course a song that might qualify easily in the normal system can already fail in the group stage here, with some bad luck, or then in the battles, but I'm willing to take that risk. You never have a success guarantee and it's just a one-off anyway, so I think it should be tried
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Post by Gilberto on Jun 12, 2019 9:56:20 GMT 1
Welcome to the beginning of the next special edition at Festival of Miracles! Here you can suggest the theme for the upcoming 40th edition! For those who are not familiar with this concept or joined the contest recently, in FoM we have a special themed edition each 5, and it's up to the players to suggest and decide the winning theme!.
There's a reward: The player who FIRST suggests the winnning theme is Automatically Qualified during that edition!
But before suggesting anything, please have in mind that these are the MAIN things I consider when selecting the themes:
1. ONLY those ''doable'' suggestions will be taken into consideration. That is, anything I consider out of reach to you as players or to me as host won't be in considered for the final list.
2. Try making your suggetion so that it doesn't affect certain countries or give advantage to other countries.
3. The themes from previous editions, and won't be repeated, were:
* 5th and 15th edition: ''Send a song in your national language'' * 10th edition: ''Only songs that participated between FoM #1 and FoM #9 are allowed to take part, not including winners'' * 30th edition: ''Participate with a different country just for one edition/random countries'' * 35th edition: ''Deep research (less than 10k views) + FIFA themed edition''
4. Try using themes that don't alter the main core of the contest too much.
5. Original suggestions will take priority over those that were already suggested in previous editions/participated in a previous poll. Although they can still be selected.
The first step is: suggest the themes, as many as you want, as crazy as you want, whichever you find the best. You can suggest themes in this thread or as in a PM to me from NOW until I tell you when to stop (there will be reminders).
You can show support/disapproval to other themes that have already been suggested by either liking the post where that theme is or by repeating it or just posting a comment of support. This is greatly taking into consideration when I select the themes.
After the deadline passes, it'll be up to me (and only me) to select which themes I consider are the best (please consider that it'll be me the one in charge of 'putting the theme in practice', after all, only). Around 6 or 7 themes will be put in a poll to decide the theme of the 40th edition.
So I'm really looking forward to see your suggestions, greetings Albania - Josh's Tattoo (Inactive) : Samanta - Ku ma le Angola - fabbi : Gerilson Israel - Casa Comigo (1:37+) Armenia : hellocat : Sirusho - Tightrope Walking Australia - MaRtIn : Rüfüs Du Sol - Underwater (4:20+) Austria - Cedric : La Rochelle Band - Brother (2:22+) Azerbaijan - qwertyqaz123 : David Vendetta vs. Tara McDonald (feat. Alim) - I'm Your Goddess (3:05+) Belarus - barovka (sometimes inactive) : Angelika Pushnova - Derzhi menya (2:15+) Belgium - ʀօʏ : KSHMR & Yves V (feat. Krewella) - No Regrets (2:22+) Brazil - Kinoshita! : Priscilla Alcantara - Empatia (1:51+) Bulgaria - orhxn : Kristian Kostov - Ne Si Za Men Canada - ✨ Forrest ✨ : Three Days Grace - Tell Me Why (2:43+) England : Llemian - Neon Jungle - Louder Finland - тнєяσиттi95 : BEAST IN BLACK - From Hell With Love (3:11+) France - Gregory (inactive) : L.E.J - Acrobates (1:45+) Germany - edgarv : Ilira - Do It Yourself (2:31+) Guatemala - xmultivision - Semi-Active : Shery & Francesco Sondelly - El Suspiro se me va (2:54+) Iceland - Jacob : Glowie - Body (2:16+) Indonesia - superjonno : Barasuara - Haluan (2:36+) Ireland - Alex Memphis : LYRA - Falling (2:45+) Israel - ᴛᴏᴍ ᴋʟᴏsᴇʀ : Netta - Nana Banana Italy - ferrygraf : Loredana Bertè - Cosa ti aspetti da me (0:50+) Japan - SBINNALA : Eir Aoi - Tsubasa (0:50+) Kazakhstan - ClassifiedCat : K.O. - Ya v tvoyey golove (1:11+) Liechtenstein - Ari : Linus Bruhn - Our City (0:36+) Lithuania - eurovisionfan23 : Paola Hart - I'm Alive (1:34+) Malaysia - European Ananas : Che'nelle - Fierce (2:55+) Mali - basil : Oumou Sangaré - Kamelemba (2:43+) Mexico - Gilberto : Sofia Reyes - RIP Monaco - Ser Pounce : Mylène Farmer & LP – N’oublie pas (2:58+) Mongolia - Þórir : The Wasabies - Ü-güi (2:01+) North Macedonia - Darius (INACTIVE) : Bobi Andonov - Faithful (0:40+) Norway - kastrix89 : Alan Walker - Alone (1:35+) Philippines - martinantidormi : Z Girls - What You Waiting For (2:14+) Poland - shax : Roxie - Lay Low (2:19+) Portugal - Ealex : Cláudia Pascoal - Ter E Não Ter (2:15+) Romania - niko : 8KO (feat. Alexandra Stan) - Ocean (1:47+) Russia - proggjjjjkjjkk4 : IC3PEAK - Smerti bolshe net (1:09+) San Marino - italix : Carmen - Non è amore (2:52+) Slovenia - Laurinda - Kim - Rhythm Back To You (2:17+) South Korea - rєgícα : Stray Kids - MIROH Spain - Argüello : La Oreja de Van Gogh - Muñeca De Trapo (0:50+) Sweden - ♫ diamanti ♫ : Smith & Thell (feat. Swedish Jam Factory) - Forgive Me Friend (1:52+) Switzerland - B3STBEATS : Timebelle (feat. Sunstroke Project) - Tócame (0:45+) Thailand - ylo7 : Wonderframe - 555 (1:05+) Turkey - nijat : Kargalar - Amfetamin (2:59+) Turkmenistan - AussieSwarm : Myahri - Turkmenistanym (1:31+) United States - Julian : Lizzo - Juice (1:53+) Wales - CHAE WITH A C : Marina & The Diamonds - End of the Earth (2:42+) Yemen - Mark K. : A-WA - Mudbira (1:49+) Chile - JonathanDK Denmark - linux620 Moldova - . Ukraine - Wysteria Jmain
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Post by SBINNALA on Jun 12, 2019 10:25:26 GMT 1
MY IDEAS
RETRO: Send any songs that released from January 1 1970 to December 31 1999
ESC SONGS: Send any songs that already parricipated in Eurovision Song Contest except winning acts.
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Post by kastrix89 on Jun 12, 2019 10:30:44 GMT 1
Love the first one above with the retro feel My two are 1- everyone must have a national final of at least three songs to find there act for the upcoming edition 2- hunger games quarter quell 50 rules (eurovision first edition rules) - everyone must send two songs for the contest. Whether you keep it at two semis or make it four and only top five go through. If you go four do your normal draw and then we pick with one goes In first or second semi. (but we don't no anybody elses. This one is also of work for yourself but could be fun
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Post by Alex Memphis on Jun 12, 2019 10:53:00 GMT 1
My suggestions:
- only LGBT artists; - every country sends 2 acts; - only Non-English songs.
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Post by kastrix89 on Jun 12, 2019 11:27:40 GMT 1
My suggestions: - only LGBT artists; - every country sends 2 acts; - only Non-English songs. Two of those maybe hard for certain countries like England.... Not sending an English song? If it's UK it's better. Lgbtiq artists unfortunately some countries believe it's still the work other devil so finding one maybe tricky But two songs ye that brilliant
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