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Post by inactivo (nq era) on Jun 19, 2018 12:04:53 GMT 1
I read the next ESC will be in Austria  ??http://www.lavanguardia.com/television/20180619/45257477807/eurovision-2019-austria-alternativa-israel-organizador.html Austria se perfila como alternativa a Israel para organizar ‘Eurovisión 2019’ El equipo organizador del Festival estaría barajando diferentes opciones |
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Post by Lewis on Jul 21, 2018 20:48:21 GMT 1
Looks like we won’t be seeing Liechtenstein next year  |
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Post by Gregory (inactive) on Jul 22, 2018 4:47:19 GMT 1
Looks like we won’t be seeing Liechtenstein next year I'm staying optimistic. But it doesn't help that they said previously the application to join EBU was completed, and all along it was not true :/ |
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Post by Lewis on Jul 22, 2018 7:12:49 GMT 1
Looks like we won’t be seeing Liechtenstein next year I'm staying optimistic. But it doesn't help that they said previously the application to join EBU was completed, and all along it was not true :/ They still have time , but I just can’t see it happening if they already lied for 7 months |
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Post by Argüello on Jul 24, 2018 3:07:44 GMT 1
I saw that now a country choose if they want to host or not in case of winning. Do guys think that this means that many countries are going to do a better job sending song and staging( like San Marino or F.Y.R Macedonia). Cause I personally loved last F.Y.R Macedonia entries but the staging cost them the final.
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Post by Gregory (inactive) on Jul 24, 2018 5:53:34 GMT 1
I saw that now a country choose if they want to host or not in case of winning. Do guys think that this means that many countries are going to do a better job sending song and staging( like San Marino or F.Y.R Macedonia). Cause I personally loved last F.Y.R Macedonia entries but the staging cost them the final. This makes the presumption that the Macedonian delegation purposely fails their staging each year to avoid hosting Eurovision. This also presumes that winning countries are *required* to host. Short answer: They're not. Long answer: it's just a strong tradition that you will host if you win, because you want to showcase your country to the rest of the world. This is why countries like Ukraine, Latvia, and Estonia managed financial difficulties to ensure the contest stayed in their country. This is also why Australia can participate, but would never host the contest in their country. Generally speaking, though, it's an expectation that if you participate in Eurovision, you will take on the responsibility of hosting if you win. In summary .... cite your sources? Because if this link is where you got this information from, then you need to read the final line  |
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Post by Argüello on Jul 24, 2018 6:47:03 GMT 1
I saw that now a country choose if they want to host or not in case of winning. Do guys think that this means that many countries are going to do a better job sending song and staging( like San Marino or F.Y.R Macedonia). Cause I personally loved last F.Y.R Macedonia entries but the staging cost them the final. This makes the presumption that the Macedonian delegation purposely fails their staging each year to avoid hosting Eurovision. This also presumes that winning countries are *required* to host. Short answer: They're not. Long answer: it's just a strong tradition that you will host if you win, because you want to showcase your country to the rest of the world. This is why countries like Ukraine, Latvia, and Estonia managed financial difficulties to ensure the contest stayed in their country. This is also why Australia can participate, but would never host the contest in their country. Generally speaking, though, it's an expectation that if you participate in Eurovision, you will take on the responsibility of hosting if you win. In summary .... cite your sources? Because if this link is where you got this information from, then you need to read the final line I was not doing an affirmation,I was actually asking.There are still some things about the contest i kinda dont understand lol. Didn't mean to insult any country at all,just read that info and wanted to know if it was true. |
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Post by nijat on Aug 3, 2018 16:28:10 GMT 1
I doubt that will happen. Which countries would withdraw because of that? Idk Azerbaijan maybe, probably none. The Western European countries would definitely participate, including the Big 5. By boycott, I meant Eurovision fans more than delegations themselves. There would certainly be drama within the delegations though, and I would bet money on Azerbaijan withdrawing for sure. Collectively, Eurofans are probably the main source of income for the EBU so a boycott/absence of Eurofans would have pretty serious consequences in the long run, unless the organisation is smart and chooses a much smaller venue that requires less money. As an  Azerbaijani citizen, I have to respond to these two comments since I do suppose that clarification is needed regarding Azerbaijan's position on Israel-Palestine conflict. (even though, it is a late reaction) I am not sure why you assumed Azerbaijan would boycott or withdraw from contest in case Jerusalem is selected as a host city. (perhaps, due to the fact that Azerbaijan is a Muslim-majority country?) If your reasoning is based on the assumption made in the brackets, then I'd like to note that situation is much more different and complicated than that. Yes, religion inevitably plays a certain role in the development of Azerbaijan-Palestine relations. Notwithstanding, Azerbaijan does not fully support one side in the conflict between Israel and Palestine. A few months ago, official statement of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding the whole political conflict around Jerusalem's status was published. The statement displays that, Azerbaijan supports two-state solution and does not recognize Jerusalem as an official capital of Israel. Furthermore, Azerbaijan has maintained strong strategic relations with Israel, especially after our independence. Israel supports Azerbaijan's position in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and two countries have strong cooperation in the fields of aviation security, intelligence, military technology, trade, communications and etc. Hence, the importance of Israel in the maintenance of security situation in Azerbaijan is undeniable. On the other hand, Palestine supports Armenia regarding Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Actually, some Western countries, such as Ireland, for instance have much stronger position on the issue. A few days ago, Irish senate passed a bill on banning the imports on all goods from Israeli settlements. I think,some of the Western countries have already expressed their disregard and kind of threatened with boycott, as well. All in all, Azerbaijan tries to have a balanced relationship with both Israel and Palestine and tries to satisfy both of them in various international issues. I, do not, therefore, think that we would boycott the contest in case it will be hosted in Jerusalem. In some way, we would perhaps try to keep the pleasant relations with Palestine, as well. I am very sorry if my comment annoys two of you, however, I wanted to clarify the position of Azerbaijan on the whole political conflict, and arguably participation in the upcoming edition of Eurovision ^^ Thanks for your attention! |
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Post by Callum on Aug 3, 2018 17:03:14 GMT 1
By boycott, I meant Eurovision fans more than delegations themselves. There would certainly be drama within the delegations though, and I would bet money on Azerbaijan withdrawing for sure. Collectively, Eurofans are probably the main source of income for the EBU so a boycott/absence of Eurofans would have pretty serious consequences in the long run, unless the organisation is smart and chooses a much smaller venue that requires less money. As an  Azerbaijani citizen, I have to respond to these two comments since I do suppose that clarification is needed regarding Azerbaijan's position on Israel-Palestine conflict. (even though, it is a late reaction) I am not sure why you assumed Azerbaijan would boycott or withdraw from contest in case Jerusalem is selected as a host city. (perhaps, due to the fact that Azerbaijan is a Muslim-majority country?) If your reasoning is based on the assumption made in the brackets, then I'd like to note that situation is much more different and complicated than that. Yes, religion inevitably plays a certain role in the development of Azerbaijan-Palestine relations. Notwithstanding, Azerbaijan does not fully support one side in the conflict between Israel and Palestine. A few months ago, official statement of our Ministry of Foreign Affairs regarding the whole political conflict around Jerusalem's status was published. The statement displays that, Azerbaijan supports two-state solution and does not recognize Jerusalem as an official capital of Israel. Furthermore, Azerbaijan has maintained strong strategic relations with Israel, especially after our independence. Israel supports Azerbaijan's position in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and two countries have strong cooperation in the fields of aviation security, intelligence, military technology, trade, communications and etc. Hence, the importance of Israel in the maintenance of security situation in Azerbaijan is undeniable. On the other hand, Palestine supports Armenia regarding Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Actually, some Western countries, such as Ireland, for instance have much stronger position on the issue. A few days ago, Irish senate passed a bill on banning the imports on all goods from Israeli settlements. I think,some of the Western countries have already expressed their disregard and kind of threatened with boycott, as well.
All in all, Azerbaijan tries to have a balanced relationship with both Israel and Palestine and tries to satisfy both of them in various international issues. I, do not, therefore, think that we would boycott the contest in case it will be hosted in Jerusalem. In some way, we would perhaps try to keep the pleasant relations with Palestine, as well. I am very sorry if my comment annoys two of you, however, I wanted to clarify the position of Azerbaijan on the whole political conflict, and arguably participation in the upcoming edition of Eurovision ^^ Thanks for your attention! Apologies for my ignorance earlier, I did presume Azerbaijan was pretty much against Israel (it's a given that Muslim-majority countries don't have bilateral relations with Israel other than a select few), and I'm not familiar with many other countries' stances to the whole Israel-Palestine situation. I've definitely learned a few things from what you've said and for that I thank you. Bolded section: I must admit though that I find the Western response quite unprecedented. Icelandic and Irish figures calling for an ESC boycott and now Ireland passing laws (albeit symbolic as imports from the Jewish settlements within Palestine must be quite scarce) like this isn't what I expected at all. It's a real shame that Eurovision's been brought into political turmoil though when the whole ethos of Eurovision is to ditch the political and cultural barriers separating nations and other people. |
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