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Post by Þórir on Jun 16, 2019 0:41:54 GMT 1
Thanks guys for the explanation.
I had red flags going off in my head when I saw the amount of K-pop in this contest - I know the reputation that the genre's fans have. I just shrugged it off as Phil being Korean and maybe some of his friends also took part. Unfortunately it seems that my initial thoughts were being proven true - Tribalism and petty defensiveness seems to run rife - banning Arguello because he liked one song from a band and not another is the most ridiculous thing I have heard.
I intend to compete in YSC 94 as normal but at this rate my participation beyond that edition is uncertain...
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Post by italix on Jun 16, 2019 4:54:50 GMT 1
Unfortunately, I'm not free to say on this forum everything that I think about this edition of Retro WWWSC. I'll just notice the obvious facts that many things would have been different with France in and Malta out, and that some countries (like France or South Korea) struggle much more than some others for good results in Retro WWWSC. When I send a song to Retro WWWSC (which I might unfortunately not be allowed to in a near future) I litterally have no clue of the ranking I could obtain from it. The only time when I was pretty sure of my results was for edition 70 when I was obliged to send Alizée back or to stay aside. I abandoned a very long time ago the idea of trying to understand the results in this contest. I really think that Ana should really do the same. What happens now in YSC is the same phenomenon that destroyed several contests on this forum and led to multiple ragequits and bans. This communauty has been build for uniting people around the universal theme of music but actually we can see hate everywhere and anytime. And the most incredible thing is that nobody seems to be really concerned by this major issue. I even got almost banned from the forum because I said that the same kind of harrassment acts we can see on this forum and linked social networks led to dramatic consequences including suicides elsewhere on Internet. But people prefer calling me the drama queen of the forum than opening their eyes. I was watching a streamer today and I think that everybody on this forum should have listened to what she said. She was at an event and some random people appeared on her stream. Some viewers made jokes about them. Nothing mean but she noticed it and she reacted later. She told us that she didn't want to see that kind of comments again, because you never know, when you make such a comment, even if it's just a joke in your mind, if what you wrote won't hurt the person. I completely agree with her. I will also add that in an international community, you also have to deal with cultural differences. We come from different countries and we have different educational backgrounds. I'll take an example: for an American student, initiating a debate with the teacher if he thinks he's wrong is perfectly normal, but in Japan, even noticing an obvious mistake would be considered as a very serious offense. In my community - I'm Corsican - we have a very strong sense of honour and respect (especially towards older people) is an essential value of our culture. At a point that a bad word may ignite a conflict between two families for several generations. So if you forget these two key principles, you can be sure that you will obtain endless wars like on this forum. I just hope that you'll be able to clean this mess with Ana because I have no time left for dealing a new conflict on this forum and in my personal life generally speaking.
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Post by Fifi on Jun 16, 2019 5:45:04 GMT 1
I really don't like drama's too! That what happens is not good! And I don't know what I can do more that she think Forum Members are not bad peoples! Uff that is really not easy!
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Post by Gilberto on Jun 16, 2019 7:00:09 GMT 1
Important News Argüello is now DSQ forever in YSC or to Vote as Jury in a CU Contest! Ana said he gives 0 Points to 2NE1 in RWWWSC'71, she means the reason is that he get a 3rd Place in YSC'56 with 2NE1 a 3rd Place! And that he is a liar, when he send they but than gives 0 Points! And liars are not welcome!
Guys it's like, very early in the morning and there are 6 pages of posts already Anyway, this is beyond ridiculous, Argüello stays. I, as a Cukage oppose formally, therefore this cannot proceed. Do I have to say my reasons or would they be too obvious? I basically agree with all what Ron said But the main reason: Rwwwsc has nothing to do with YSC, the end. Whatever happens there is independant of YSC and I can't believe I have to state such an obvious thing. The reasoning to call him a "liar" is just, (how to say this in a non offensive way) very dumb and childish. And not only here, in general that mentality is preposterous, it's like if I HAD TO like All Imagine Dragons songs just because I like the band, it's utter nonsense
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Post by Gilberto on Jun 16, 2019 7:14:41 GMT 1
In fact, just as she can create rules at will, I can do so too, so she should be very careful about that, as I can turn very harsh and unfair if she keeps attacking my friends New rule: Rwwwsc results will not affect, in any way, this contest anymore. From now on, Retro doesn't exist in the YSC board. And I highly encourage all forum participants to vote in the upcoming poll, that's the only way we can overturn what Ana has done.
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Post by Fifi on Jun 16, 2019 8:39:10 GMT 1
In fact, just as she can create rules at will, I can do so too, so she should be very careful about that, as I can turn very harsh and unfair if she keeps attacking my friends New rule: Rwwwsc results will not affect, in any way, this contest anymore. From now on, Retro doesn't exist in the YSC board. And I highly encourage all forum participants to vote in the upcoming poll, that's the only way we can overturn what Ana has done. Would I say too!
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Post by Fifi on Jun 16, 2019 8:40:41 GMT 1
Really you all should Voting in this CU GA 3.Quarter 2019!
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Post by Fifi on Jun 16, 2019 19:48:11 GMT 1
Gilberto you must open offical tomorrow the Voting time, than Ana planed not 2 weeks Voting time! She planed only 1 Day Voting Time on the End from June!
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Post by Gilberto on Jun 16, 2019 20:46:08 GMT 1
Gilberto you must open offical tomorrow the Voting time, than Ana planed not 2 weeks Voting time! She planed only 1 Day Voting Time on the End from June! What do you mean? Voting time for the Quarter poll thingy?
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Post by Fifi on Jun 16, 2019 21:16:22 GMT 1
Gilberto you must open offical tomorrow the Voting time, than Ana planed not 2 weeks Voting time! She planed only 1 Day Voting Time on the End from June! What do you mean? Voting time for the Quarter poll thingy? Yes to start the time for Voting!
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