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Post by fabbi on May 7, 2014 22:18:06 GMT 1
Maybe our did so too and I forgot it.  Anyway, I didn't know it either prior to the 2012 contest   Good! Then I'm not the only one who didn't know that very long time.  I'm sure I'll forget it until then. |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on May 7, 2014 22:20:15 GMT 1
I don't remember when last time Spain, France, Sweden, Denmark, Albania, Iceland or other countries have given us points... I'm from a western country and I can ensure people here simply don't like your kind of entries. Today in my class they were talking about yesterday night and they all agreed with each; '  Latvia was the worst of the evening' I will totally disagree with you - to prove I'm not the only one who disagree with you, you should try to search on twitter trends like #caketobake #Latvia #aarzemnieki #caketobake was one of the worlds most used trends that evening - and most of tweets were about how good the song is and that it should definitely qualify... most of these tweets came from Germany and UK, which weren't allowed to vote that night... But I can agree with you, that Europe just don't understand our music (or they just don't want to?). The same goes about latvian songs here on all contests... AND bookmakers aren't the people you should listen to, but most of the Europe does it, so that's why they almost always are right... they think - if bookmakers see this song strong, then it is strong and everyone should vote for it... if people wouldn't look at what bookmakers think so much, then bookmakers would mostly be wrong... |
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Post by fabbi on May 7, 2014 22:28:25 GMT 1
I'm from a western country and I can ensure people here simply don't like your kind of entries. Today in my class they were talking about yesterday night and they all agreed with each; ' Latvia was the worst of the evening' I will totally disagree with you - to prove I'm not the only one who disagree with you, you should try to search on twitter trends like #caketobake #Latvia #aarzemnieki #caketobake was one of the worlds most used trends that evening - and most of tweets were about how good the song is and that it should definitely qualify... most of these tweets came from Germany and UK, which weren't allowed to vote that night... But I can agree with you, that Europe just don't understand our music (or they just don't want to?). The same goes about latvian songs here on all contests... AND bookmakers aren't the people you should listen to, but most of the Europe does it, so that's why they almost always are right... they think - if bookmakers see this song strong, then it is strong and everyone should vote for it... if people wouldn't look at what bookmakers think so much, then bookmakers would mostly be wrong... Why are you that sure about the bookmakers? |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on May 7, 2014 22:28:40 GMT 1
Neighbour??? How can I blame them if there was only Estonia in our semi, that always give us points? And why would I if they GIVE us points... Or maybe I just don't get what you mean... lol quite all the ex USSR was there  They have almost never gave us points, except Lithuania & Estonia (but they have a good reason, why they give)... so why would I blame them? Every year I'm hoping for a miracle to happen, but it doesn't... these countries just aren't interested in our music... None of European countries are interested in our music (except Baltics) or maybe you can argue me? I think you can't because all these contests prove it... |
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Post by fabbi on May 7, 2014 22:30:35 GMT 1
lol quite all the ex USSR was there They have almost never gave us points, except Lithuania & Estonia (but they have a good reason, why they give) Could you please tell me that reason? It sounds like an interesting one. |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on May 7, 2014 22:35:13 GMT 1
I will totally disagree with you - to prove I'm not the only one who disagree with you, you should try to search on twitter trends like #caketobake #Latvia #aarzemnieki #caketobake was one of the worlds most used trends that evening - and most of tweets were about how good the song is and that it should definitely qualify... most of these tweets came from Germany and UK, which weren't allowed to vote that night... But I can agree with you, that Europe just don't understand our music (or they just don't want to?). The same goes about latvian songs here on all contests... AND bookmakers aren't the people you should listen to, but most of the Europe does it, so that's why they almost always are right... they think - if bookmakers see this song strong, then it is strong and everyone should vote for it... if people wouldn't look at what bookmakers think so much, then bookmakers would mostly be wrong... Why are you that sure about the bookmakers? Because they more and more often pay to hosts of contest or any other public competition, that they get it to their bet... haven't you heard about totalizator scandals in the whole world? I'm not saying, that this also happens in ESC, but we can never be sure it's all so "clean" and that the votes aren't being bought... Ralfs Eilands in one interview said that there is going on a pretty big vote-buying in ESC... And as he was there in the middle of all this, I believe him... And I believe him, because he's an honest person and he always says the truth and what he thinks... that's why he made song called "Revelation"... |
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Post by Tom on May 7, 2014 22:36:13 GMT 1
I'm from a western country and I can ensure people here simply don't like your kind of entries. Today in my class they were talking about yesterday night and they all agreed with each; ' Latvia was the worst of the evening' I will totally disagree with you - to prove I'm not the only one who disagree with you, you should try to search on twitter trends like #caketobake #Latvia #aarzemnieki #caketobake was one of the worlds most used trends that evening - and most of tweets were about how good the song is and that it should definitely qualify... most of these tweets came from Germany and UK, which weren't allowed to vote that night... But I can agree with you, that Europe just don't understand our music (or they just don't want to?). The same goes about latvian songs here on all contests... AND bookmakers aren't the people you should listen to, but most of the Europe does it, so that's why they almost always are right... they think - if bookmakers see this song strong, then it is strong and everyone should vote for it... if people wouldn't look at what bookmakers think so much, then bookmakers would mostly be wrong... Twitter doesn't say everything.  Most of the Twitter users who were watching the Eurovision Song Contest yesterday night would probably post on Twitter as well so that their followers can read what they think about the entries. If I search #mojsvijet on Twitter I see a lot of positive comments on the  Montenegrin entry as well. See, people want to support their favourites. I don't think no one liked the  Latvian entry so there were of course people who tried to support Latvia via Twitter but for sure not that much to let Latvia reach the finals. Bookmakers aren't just random people. They've mostly a lot of knowledge about the music world and the Eurovision Song Contest and even they are following things like personal tops of YouTube users. I don't think they're just manipulating most of the viewers, that would be too unrealistic. |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on May 7, 2014 22:39:00 GMT 1
They have almost never gave us points, except Lithuania & Estonia (but they have a good reason, why they give) Could you please tell me that reason? It sounds like an interesting one. It's simple - we are like brothers - we've fought together for our freedom etc. Almost everything in our history is the same... that's why we understand each other so good... we've done many things together... |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on May 7, 2014 22:43:15 GMT 1
I will totally disagree with you - to prove I'm not the only one who disagree with you, you should try to search on twitter trends like #caketobake #Latvia #aarzemnieki #caketobake was one of the worlds most used trends that evening - and most of tweets were about how good the song is and that it should definitely qualify... most of these tweets came from Germany and UK, which weren't allowed to vote that night... But I can agree with you, that Europe just don't understand our music (or they just don't want to?). The same goes about latvian songs here on all contests... AND bookmakers aren't the people you should listen to, but most of the Europe does it, so that's why they almost always are right... they think - if bookmakers see this song strong, then it is strong and everyone should vote for it... if people wouldn't look at what bookmakers think so much, then bookmakers would mostly be wrong... Bookmakers aren't just random people. They've mostly a lot of knowledge about the music world and the Eurovision Song Contest and even they are following things like personal tops of YouTube users. I don't think they're just manipulating most of the viewers, that would be too unrealistic. You can believe it, but I won't till there won't be 100% positive proof, that proves I'm wrong and you're right... |
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Post by ha11d0r99 on May 7, 2014 23:30:56 GMT 1
Anyway, I didn't know it either prior to the 2012 contest Good! Then I'm not the only one who didn't know that very long time. I'm sure I'll forget it until then. I never would have known about the juries voting a day earlier if I hadn't went last year, then it really hit me that 50% of the votes from all the countries are in the hands of 5 people... |
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Most of the Twitter users who were watching the Eurovision Song Contest yesterday night would probably post on Twitter as well so that their followers can read what they think about the entries. 
