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Post by Jan on Jun 8, 2014 15:12:27 GMT 1
TRT wanted to participate, even selected an artist.
Erdogan says no.
Everyone does what he says.
Perfect example.
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Post by Kerem on Jun 8, 2014 15:15:38 GMT 1
TRT wanted to participate, even selected an artist. Erdogan says no. Everyone does what he says. Perfect example. Yes because TRT is by Erdogan. They support him. That's the reason! An another broadcaster (or most of them) wouldn't hear what Erdogan is saying
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2014 15:33:24 GMT 1
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Post by Kerem on Jun 8, 2014 15:35:09 GMT 1
That's why he was re-elected with even more votes
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Post by ESCIliasMANL (Inactive) on Jun 8, 2014 16:31:26 GMT 1
Erdogan is one of the worst people ever. He's as bad as Putin but Turkey re-elected him and I will never know why. OMG NO! He isn't as bad as Putin I think he means Bush We should export this comments to the right thread!
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Post by Kerem on Jun 8, 2014 16:49:40 GMT 1
OMG NO! He isn't as bad as Putin I think he means Bush We should export this comments to the right thread! Jan can do it But it would be a disastee I think if we would continue to speak about politics
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Post by Tom on Jun 8, 2014 17:31:17 GMT 1
TRT wanted to participate, even selected an artist. Erdogan says no. Everyone does what he says. Perfect example. Yes because TRT is by Erdogan. They support him. That's the reason! An another broadcaster (or most of them) wouldn't hear what Erdogan is saying The leader of a democratic country shouldn't give a subjective opinion about a situation generally. He should make the laws together with the majority and then he has to see if it'll work out nice. If it doesn't or he disagrees he can change/remove the laws. Erdogan mixes first of all himself in situations where he shouldn't have any influences and secondly it's simply not right that if a president says he doesn't like something then the transferring side does directly what he wants. I'm sure TRT wanted to paricipate if they already chose the participant. Erdogan just destroyed this wish of them. And that's what I mean; it's Erdogan's fault in this case that Turkey withdrew in 2013. Or do you think the government in my country is able to say anything about our participation in the Eurovision Song Contest?
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Post by Kerem on Jun 8, 2014 17:36:56 GMT 1
Yes because TRT is by Erdogan. They support him. That's the reason! An another broadcaster (or most of them) wouldn't hear what Erdogan is saying The leader of a democratic country shouldn't give a subjective opinion about a situation generally. He should make the laws together with the majority and then he has to see if it'll work out nice. If it doesn't or he disagrees he can change/remove the laws. Erdogan mixes first of all himself in situations where he shouldn't have any influences and secondly it's simply not right that if a president says he doesn't like something then the transferring side does directly what he wants. I'm sure TRT wanted to paricipate if they already chose the participant. Erdogan just destroyed this wish of them. And that's what I mean; it's Erdogan's fault in this case that Turkey withdrew in 2013. Or do you think the government in my country is able to say anything about our participation in the Eurovision Song Contest? You're right in that case. TRT wanted to participate. But then Erdogan destroyed it - but TRT didn't care. TRT supports Erdogan. The Head of Delegation of TRT is the vice-president of Erdogan. That's the point! TRT could say NO we want to participate - Erdogan would do NOTHING! But TRT supports all the opinions of Erdogan.
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Post by Tom on Jun 8, 2014 17:43:27 GMT 1
The leader of a democratic country shouldn't give a subjective opinion about a situation generally. He should make the laws together with the majority and then he has to see if it'll work out nice. If it doesn't or he disagrees he can change/remove the laws. Erdogan mixes first of all himself in situations where he shouldn't have any influences and secondly it's simply not right that if a president says he doesn't like something then the transferring side does directly what he wants. I'm sure TRT wanted to paricipate if they already chose the participant. Erdogan just destroyed this wish of them. And that's what I mean; it's Erdogan's fault in this case that Turkey withdrew in 2013. Or do you think the government in my country is able to say anything about our participation in the Eurovision Song Contest? You're right in that case. TRT wanted to participate. But then Erdogan destroyed it - but TRT didn't care. TRT supports Erdogan. The Head of Delegation of TRT is the vice-president of Erdogan. That's the point! TRT could say NO we want to participate - Erdogan would do NOTHING! But TRT supports all the opinions of Erdogan. Yeah, in this case Turkey is pretty unlucky with its broadcaster since there are (accidentally) a few people with a lot of power in the case of the participation who could decide about the participation of Turkey. But then still I think the broadcaster should listen to the voice of the public and not to the voice of the president. If only the president and the HoD of TRT doesn't like the Eurovision Song Contest they shouldn't have the opportunity to let Turkey withdraw. In a democratic country the people are able to decide about a topic like this as well. And as I mentioned before, I'm still sure that Erdogan shouldn't have the opportunity to give his subjective opinion about something like this.
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Post by ESCIliasMANL (Inactive) on Jun 8, 2014 17:45:37 GMT 1
Yes because TRT is by Erdogan. They support him. That's the reason! An another broadcaster (or most of them) wouldn't hear what Erdogan is saying The leader of a democratic country shouldn't give a subjective opinion about a situation generally. He should make the laws together with the majority and then he has to see if it'll work out nice. If it doesn't or he disagrees he can change/remove the laws. Erdogan mixes first of all himself in situations where he shouldn't have any influences and secondly it's simply not right that if a president says he doesn't like something then the transferring side does directly what he wants. I'm sure TRT wanted to paricipate if they already chose the participant. Erdogan just destroyed this wish of them. And that's what I mean; it's Erdogan's fault in this case that Turkey withdrew in 2013. Or do you think the government in my country is able to say anything about our participation in the Eurovision Song Contest? Our goverment can also say that Netherlands wont participate in Eurovision cause AvroTros is of the goverment! Only we dont do that !
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