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Post by Mordecai on Jan 22, 2015 13:21:59 GMT 1
There's always two types of bloc voting - cultural and political. Countries like Greece and Cyprus, Turkey and Azerbaijan, Belarus and Russia, Bosnia and Serbia etc. have very similar cultures and languages, and tend to vote for this reason. Countries such as Russia and Azerbaijan, Lithuania and Georgia, Germany, Austria, France ---> Turkey and UK, Romania, most of Europe ----> Greece are political voting simply because this is either tactical vote exchange (you scratch my back I scratch yours) or diaspora votes, in  and  's case, the fact that they're ex-Soviet states stems the votes. |
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Post by mimisthesc on Jan 22, 2015 13:47:08 GMT 1
There's always two types of bloc voting - cultural and political. Countries like Greece and Cyprus, Turkey and Azerbaijan, Belarus and Russia, Bosnia and Serbia etc. have very similar cultures and languages, and tend to vote for this reason. Countries such as Russia and Azerbaijan, Lithuania and Georgia, Germany, Austria, France ---> Turkey and UK, Romania, most of Europe ----> Greece are political voting simply because this is either tactical vote exchange (you scratch my back I scratch yours) or diaspora votes, in  and  's case, the fact that they're ex-Soviet states stems the votes. I totally agree with your comment on  Cyprus and  Greece. Most of the Greek entries are actually huge hits here and I know all of them as they're played on the radio all the time, so this is another main reason for which I tend to give points to them... However, there have been Greek entries that I didn't really like and which I didn't vote for  |
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Post by Laurinda on Jan 22, 2015 14:17:12 GMT 1
That's how I used to think. You can believe anything you want. I have lots of beliefs that I don't share with anyone I know But that's alright. Why do you think  does so badly in ESC? General opinion about the song is good - very good. Do other countries hate us? No. We hate ourselves. As depressing as that sounds it's true. Our NS winner gets 50% of hate 50% of support (may vary - I never really measured it ). We are known (amongst ourselves) for being envious. We tend to be jealous of successful people - not in sports though, which I find odd. In my eyes the final result of our entry depicts how much we like our singer + song. Obviously my belief. You can agree to disagree
Ultimate Song Contest  and I was joking  We have the same problem, but a little different. It's not only about hating yourself, because you're not the one who votes for your country in ESC, but other countries do, so if others don't vote for your country, you can be mad or happy - it won't change a thing. But talking about  ourselves - we also don't like most of our entries, but that's not because the song is bad or what. It's mostly because we had at least one song that was better (or could do better) than the one who got to ESC, so the anger comes because of that. But that's televoting works - you can't make everyone happy. I hope it will get better with jury, but I doubt it, because in the final anyway the televoting will decide our winner. P.S. I guess I'm the only one who defends my opinion  Pretty difficult discussion for somewhere else |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Jan 22, 2015 14:42:19 GMT 1
We have the same problem, but a little different. It's not only about hating yourself, because you're not the one who votes for your country in ESC, but other countries do, so if others don't vote for your country, you can be mad or happy - it won't change a thing. But talking about ourselves - we also don't like most of our entries, but that's not because the song is bad or what. It's mostly because we had at least one song that was better (or could do better) than the one who got to ESC, so the anger comes because of that. But that's televoting works - you can't make everyone happy. I hope it will get better with jury, but I doubt it, because in the final anyway the televoting will decide our winner. P.S. I guess I'm the only one who defends my opinion Pretty difficult discussion for somewhere else BTW, what's your first entry for  Latvia in Ultimate Song Contest? |
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Post by Laurinda on Jan 22, 2015 14:45:02 GMT 1
Pretty difficult discussion for somewhere else BTW, what's your first entry for Latvia in Ultimate Song Contest? I don't know yet |
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Post by fabbi on Jan 23, 2015 22:46:40 GMT 1
That's very realistic, and I don't mind as  Switzerland has a good entry  So if Switzerland wins and I'm 2nd, it's ok with me too  Is this the answer to everything? Have you seen the movie The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy? Because then you'd know the answer to everything. |
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Post by ESCIliasMANL (Inactive) on Jan 24, 2015 0:55:40 GMT 1
 Morocco will decide after the results of #35 if they will continue in WWWSC. |
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Post by ferrygraf on Jan 24, 2015 1:38:05 GMT 1
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Jan 24, 2015 10:25:46 GMT 1
I thought I could make my prediction for 2nd chance round and here it is, although I might be wrong about some entries Qualifiers (random order): Romania  France Greece (or  Sweden, but I think Greece) Non-qualifiers (random order): Ukraine Latvia (for myself I predict 4th or 5th place) (yes, mimisthesc I believe in my song)  Norway Azerbaijan  Denmark  Macedonia No offence to anyone, because this is just a prediction, not how I like or dislike those songs  |
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Post by ferrygraf on Jan 24, 2015 11:04:54 GMT 1
I'm happy to see that many of you are interested in the 2nd chance round, we've already received 18 votes so far
We appreciate every single one!
If anyone else wants to vote, you still have more than one day left! Deadline is tomorrow, Sunday, 25th of January!
Once again, voting is only optional and the participants of this round cannot take part here!
SanBeanzie, nijat, Gloria, OMAROSA, Yngve, ha11d0r99, Anton, quinho95, 𝐴𝑑𝑟𝑖𝑎̀, ESCIliasMANL (Inactive), Jericho (Super inactive)
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