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Post by Kenajabam on Mar 22, 2017 18:30:01 GMT 1
Law is law, but the fact that Ukraine made it official after the deadline for submitting a song/artist is really rude. Its not like the Russian artist was announced a long time ago though.
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Post by Jan on Mar 22, 2017 18:36:54 GMT 1
Law is law, but the fact that Ukraine made it official after the deadline for submitting a song/artist is really rude. Um, the artist was announced one day before the deadline tbh and it needs some time to be investigated?
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Post by MG on Mar 22, 2017 18:50:39 GMT 1
Law is law, but the fact that Ukraine made it official after the deadline for submitting a song/artist is really rude. Um, the artist was announced one day before the deadline tbh and it needs some time to be investigated? Which proves once again that this could be just a provocation from Russia. Knowing that the artist wouldn't be allowed and wait until the last day to submit the song
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Post by Dmitry on Mar 22, 2017 19:48:51 GMT 1
Russian provocation, yeah, of course It looks very strange, because every case according to this law is considered individually. Therefore, Ukraine could admit the participation of a russian artist, but refused. And now everyone is talking about "russian provocation". It's brilliant. Participate in Eurovision was a Julia's dream, "thanks", Ukraine. As I heard Julia Samoilova will participate in Eurovision next year (I do not wanna it).
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Post by Nutzername92a on Mar 22, 2017 21:14:33 GMT 1
We're talking about Russia - a country whose delegation since 2013 keeps sending ironic peace anthems to Eurovision. <i>"What if we all opened our arms? What if we came together as one? What if we chose to bury our guns?" "Sending out a message out above Telling all the world to show some love" "We are the worlds people Different yet we're the same We believe We believe in a dream Praying for peace and healing I hope we can start again We believe We believe in a dream"</i> We know for a fact that Putin cares a lot about international events like Eurovision and the Olympics. He likes to have a say in everything, because he's very interested in presenting his country in the the most glamorous way possible. He cares about his country's reputation in the world. The fact that Russia went for internal selections made by state TV doesn't come surprising. Is it too far-fetched to see fishy motivations in this? Maybe. With Sergey Lazarev they finally sent a normal song again, so everything seemed to be okay again. So maybe it was just a coincidence with those 3 peace songs 2013-2015, right? Looking at this year, it's safe to say no. Waiting until the last day before the deadline to announce a disabled singer was the perfect move for Russia, because it leaves Ukraine without any option to look good in this situation. Letting her compete in the contest would result in booing when Russia's name comes up, which makes Ukraine look as monsters who boo a disabled innocent person, which would place Russia in the victim position and generate lots of votes (as it already did in 2014+2015). It would also mean that Ukraine doesn't stick to their laws about illegal entering of the country, which would indirectly send a sign of agreement that Crimea belongs to Russia now. The other option, NOT letting her compete in the contest, would make Ukraine look like monsters who don't like disabled people as well. So it doesn't matter what Ukraine does. I can only laugh at the sad tweets in the wiwibloggs article. Russia got what they wanted. People are insulting Ukraine now for having laws, lmao. Also to the people who cry that Yulia's one-and-only dream got destroyed: Blame the Russian broadcaster for selecting her despite knowing very well about her having been to Crimea illegally. It's weak to believe that there is NO singer in the whole of Russia who hasn't been to Crimea in the past couple of years. Yulia can still participate next year, so there is no destroyed dream. And next year, she will be an even bigger hero who will get even more sympathy votes. And she has a chance to get a better song. Let's face it: if you want her to win, be happy that she doesn't try with "Flame Is Burning".
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Post by MG on Mar 22, 2017 21:49:15 GMT 1
Russian provocation, yeah, of course It looks very strange, because every case according to this law is considered individually. Therefore, Ukraine could admit the participation of a russian artist, but refused. And now everyone is talking about "russian provocation". It's brilliant. Participate in Eurovision was a Julia's dream, "thanks", Ukraine. As I heard Julia Samoilova will participate in Eurovision next year (I do not wanna it). Before you get me wrong, I don't really agree with what happened. I mean there could be an exception in this case as it's a SONG contest afterall and she personally didn't deserve this. I really wanted to see her performing this song, as imo it's way better than last year entry. But I also understand that laws are laws and I am sure that Russia was aware of this, yet they still did this step and sent her despite knowing she broke the Ukrainian law and that this would eventually happen. P.S. I am happy she will go to Eurovision next year and will make her dream real.
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Post by OMAROSA on Mar 22, 2017 22:16:46 GMT 1
tbh I feel like it'd be in their best interest to just withdraw, like Armenia did in 2012.
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Post by Dmitry on Mar 22, 2017 23:05:21 GMT 1
Russian provocation, yeah, of course It looks very strange, because every case according to this law is considered individually. Therefore, Ukraine could admit the participation of a russian artist, but refused. And now everyone is talking about "russian provocation". It's brilliant. Participate in Eurovision was a Julia's dream, "thanks", Ukraine. As I heard Julia Samoilova will participate in Eurovision next year (I do not wanna it). Before you get me wrong, I don't really agree with what happened. I mean there could be an exception in this case as it's a SONG contest afterall and she personally didn't deserve this. I really wanted to see her performing this song, as imo it's way better than last year entry. But I also understand that laws are laws and I am sure that Russia was aware of this, yet they still did this step and sent her despite knowing she broke the Ukrainian law and that this would eventually happen. P.S. I am happy she will go to Eurovision next year and will make her dream real. In this situation a lot of politics. The Ukrainian government could said "OK, let she perform, but after the finals leaves the country and does not back for 3 years." It would be right, Julia would sing her song and there would not be this whole scandal. No provocations, no scandals, everyone is happy. I can't change your mind. Think what you want, but be aware - there was no provocation, we don't wanna any conflict.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2017 11:37:21 GMT 1
Russia announce that Yulia Samoilova will represent Russia in the Eurovision Song Contest 2018
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Post by Josh's Tattoo (Inactive) on Mar 23, 2017 19:49:37 GMT 1
I hope someway they will be able to take part
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